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Consistent temporary network error

  1. #11


    Some of the solutions in the following links may help.

    I don't recommend disabling IPv6 as is suggested in the link but the other settings may help like disabling Auto tuning etc.

    Windows 7 Network Slow - 6 Easy Ways to Make it Fast

    There is also this thread from the Windows 7 forums which shows many different solutions for this ongoing problem.
    Extremely slow file transfers and network access... - Windows 7 Help Forums

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  2. #12


    Posts : 11
    Windows 8 Pro, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012

    Found the Answer...


    Ok...after lots of NetMon/WireShark network traces, etc., I have finally discovered the root cause of this odd issue, at least within my network. If one of the other posters to this thread could also try my "fix" to confirm these findings, it would be greatly appreciated.

    The issue here is the Windows Computer Browser service. If you stop and disable this service on your client systems, this quirky network issue is completely eliminated. This finding actually fits the facts that I observed while researching this issue perfectly. For example, I mentioned in one of my prior posts that the problem did not affect access to a Windows Server 2008R2 or Windows Server 2012 machine....this is because the Computer Browser service is disabled by default on these Windows server editions.

    I know that in many of the Windows shops that I have worked in over the years, the Computer Browser service is often disabled by Group Policy on all systems by the administrator. In my case, after stopping and disabling this service on all of my systems where it was running, the symptom has now completely disappeared. I also see no real negative impact to disabling this service.

    This must be a bug in Windows 8 and its dealing with the remote system's Computer Browser service. What exactly this bug is, I'm not sure. Since it seems that disabling this service, even in a non-domain environment, causes no real negative ramifications, I think it is a reasonable solution. No more need to map a drive to each system.

    Hopefully, Microsoft will get a fix for this..I,for one, however, will continue to simply run without this service being active on my network.

    If anyone get a chance to test this in their environment, please update this thread with your findings.

    Thanks,


    Dr G
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  3. #13


    Posts : 4
    Windows 8 Pro x64

    I'll let you Know


    I hope this solves the problem for all of us. But I can only check later, I'm at work. But no matter what, thanks for all your efforts and feedback. I'll definitely respond with my results in about 4 to 6 hours.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 4
    Windows 8 Pro x64

    Re: Found the Answer...


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Gary View Post
    Ok...after lots of NetMon/WireShark network traces, etc., I have finally discovered the root cause of this odd issue, at least within my network. If one of the other posters to this thread could also try my "fix" to confirm these findings, it would be greatly appreciated.

    The issue here is the Windows Computer Browser service. If you stop and disable this service on your client systems, this quirky network issue is completely eliminated. This finding actually fits the facts that I observed while researching this issue perfectly. For example, I mentioned in one of my prior posts that the problem did not affect access to a Windows Server 2008R2 or Windows Server 2012 machine....this is because the Computer Browser service is disabled by default on these Windows server editions.

    I know that in many of the Windows shops that I have worked in over the years, the Computer Browser service is often disabled by Group Policy on all systems by the administrator. In my case, after stopping and disabling this service on all of my systems where it was running, the symptom has now completely disappeared. I also see no real negative impact to disabling this service.

    This must be a bug in Windows 8 and its dealing with the remote system's Computer Browser service. What exactly this bug is, I'm not sure. Since it seems that disabling this service, even in a non-domain environment, causes no real negative ramifications, I think it is a reasonable solution. No more need to map a drive to each system.

    Hopefully, Microsoft will get a fix for this..I,for one, however, will continue to simply run without this service being active on my network.

    If anyone get a chance to test this in their environment, please update this thread with your findings.

    Thanks,


    Dr G
    YES IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I disabled the "Computer Browser Service" on the 3 computers on my network (1-Win7 and 2-Win8) restarted them and "How Sweet it is" no delay, works the way it should. Just to be sure I restarted all the computers (and some total shutdowns and startups) multiple times, and so far so good. I'll post back in few days to confirm my status.

    Good Work Dr G, No I'm sorry - GREAT WORK Dr G
    Jacques
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  5. #15


    Posts : 11
    Windows 8 Pro, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012

    Great...


    Jacques,

    Thanks for the update. I'm glad I was able to assist you.

    I now believe this change will also solve the problem for the other posters as well.

    If you do see any issues, please post back to the thread.

    Thanks,

    Dr G
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  6. #16


    Chicago USA
    Posts : 84
    Windows 7 Pro and Windows 8.1 Pro 32 bit and 64 bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Gary View Post
    Ok...after lots of NetMon/WireShark network traces, etc., I have finally discovered the root cause of this odd issue, at least within my network. If one of the other posters to this thread could also try my "fix" to confirm these findings, it would be greatly appreciated.
    My windows 7 desktop was the culprit. The Computer Browser service was set to manual but was "started." I disabled and re-booted and PROBLEM SOLVED! My two WIN8 laptops were set to manual but the service was not running on either one. Just to be safe I disabled both of them anyway. It looks like Dr. Gary figured it out. Thank you, Thank you. Thank you. It was driving me nuts.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 11
    Windows 8 Pro, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012

    Great...


    Hey Mick,

    Thanks for the update. I'm glad this change has solved the problem for you as well.

    I hope the OP of this thread gives it a try and then can mark this thread solved.

    Dr G
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  8. #18


    Chicago USA
    Posts : 84
    Windows 7 Pro and Windows 8.1 Pro 32 bit and 64 bit


    Just to verify I joined my network with a seldom used older desktop that has Windows 7 Pro installed. The Computer Browser service on that computer was set to "Manual" but was "started" just like my other Win 7 Pro computer. I have never altered any services on either Win 7 computer so this must be the default condition. After starting the computer and joining the Homegroup I tried to access the shares on this older computer from a Windows 8 laptop and had trouble with sharing right away. I disable the Computer Browser service on the Windows 7 machine and got in right away without even rebooting.
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  9. #19


    Posts : 11
    Windows 8 Pro, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012

    You are Correct...


    The Computer Browser service has the following default start options:

    Windows XP == Automatic
    Windows 7 & 8 == Manual
    Windows Server Editions 2008R2 & 2012 == Disabled

    In my environment, which includes Macs, Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8, Server 2008R2 and Server 2012, I have disabled it on all systems and have not seen any sign of the original network error in 3 days.

    I also never saw the issue when accessing any of my mac systems since they obviously don't have a Windows Computer Browser service at all.
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  10. #20


    Chicago USA
    Posts : 84
    Windows 7 Pro and Windows 8.1 Pro 32 bit and 64 bit


    Dr. Gary,

    This forum is filled with dozens of different posts of people experiencing the same sharing issues. I have been looking at the posts and forwarding them to this site and referencing post #12 which is your post regarding the "Computer Browser" service.

    Here is another happy camper who had his sharing woes fixed by your discovery.

    Windows 8 Networking Woes
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