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  1. #1


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center

    Important


    I have read so many posts about being unable to boot from a usb to install a version of Windows.
    Being unable to "mount" an iso.
    Getting partitions wrong.
    "Formatting". Whatever that means.

    From personal experience there is no "formatting" needed.
    No "mounting".
    No need to make partitions.

    Just download an ISO.
    Extract it using 7-Zip to a USB drive.
    Click on the setup.exe contained in the ISO.
    Wallah--- The OS is installed.
    No muss.
    No fuss.

    I have done this.
    It works.

    Why make things more complicated than they have to be ?

    It just boggles my mind to see people doing un-necessary things when the installing process is so simple.

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  2. #2



    Trying to Sith things out
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 2,288
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    Ok David, now please write a tutorial, so it get's put there for posterity and easy finding. Most people think(myself included till now) that you have to "burn" it to the thumb drive, meaning installing some kind of tool. Thanks for telling us it can be done easier.
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  3. #3


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Ok David, now please write a tutorial, so it get's put there for posterity and easy finding. Most people think(myself included till now) that you have to "burn" it to the thumb drive, meaning installing some kind of tool. Thanks for telling us it can be done easier.
    OK.
    It will take a little bit of time as I will need to download another ISO to take screen shots from.

    No "burning to a thumb drive" as ISO.
    You EXTRACT the ISO, that is uncompress it to a thumb drive.
    An ISO is simply a big zip file containing needed files to install an operating system.
    Among the files is the setup.exe which does the job .

    This has irked me for some time.
    I'm no genius or anything but just through common sense I chose to extract the Windows 10 ISO & found the setup.exe which installed Windows 10 TP.
    To test my theory I downloaded a Windows 8.1 Pro ISO & extracted it & low & behold there was the setup.exe !

    Tutorial coming soon.
    Will post it in Tutorials section of this forum.
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  4. #4


    Posts : 879
    Windows 10


    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    Click on the setup.exe contained in the ISO.
    But if Windows does not start normally.

    Upgrade Install to Windows 8 or Windows 8.1

    OPTION FOUR
    To Upgrade to Windows 8 or 8.1 using an ISO, DVD, or USB flash drive

    NOTE: This option is to upgrade to Windows 8 using you Windows 8 ISO or Windows 8 installation DVD/USB.
    3. From within the current Windows 8, Windows 7, Vista, or XP SP3, open the Windows 8/8.1 USB/DVD or mounted ISO file, run the setup.exe file, and close the Explorer window. (see screenshot below)
    NOTE: For example, I did this from within Windows 7.

    8. Select (dot) what you would like to keep in Windows 8 from your Windows 7, Vista, or XP, and click/tap on Next. (see screenshot below)
    NOTE: The options you have available here will vary.

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  5. #5


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    It's easy peasy on a blank drive that doesn't already have Windows on it. It gets complicated for some though if Windows is already installed, especially if it's an OEM install with all the system partitions and extra recovery etc partitions. Which ones do I delete and should I. Or if you actually want to split your drive up and use separate partitions for your Data etc. It's not as cut and dried as it would seem. Don't get me wrong, I do agree that some overcomplicate it. IMHO lack of knowledge contributes to a lot of it.
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  6. #6


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    It's easy peasy on a blank drive that doesn't already have Windows on it. It gets complicated for some though if Windows is already installed, especially if it's an OEM install with all the system partitions and extra recovery etc partitions. Which ones do I delete and should I. Or if you actually want to split your drive up and use separate partitions for your Data etc. It's not as cut and dried as it would seem. Don't get me wrong, I do agree that some overcomplicate it. IMHO lack of knowledge contributes to a lot of it.
    I had Windows 8.1 Pro WMC installed before using the setup.exe in the 10 TP.
    Installed good.
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  7. #7


    Posts : 120
    Windows 10 Pro x64


    You're steps in OP are spot on except I have found that I need to prepare the disk with diskpart in order to make it bootable. Simple commands that take me 30 secs, then use WinRar/7zip to extract the iso to the USB. This way I can boot directly into the installer's WinPE environment so that I can format/clean install. (Upgrade installs are bad)
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  8. #8


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    It's easy peasy on a blank drive that doesn't already have Windows on it. It gets complicated for some though if Windows is already installed, especially if it's an OEM install with all the system partitions and extra recovery etc partitions. Which ones do I delete and should I. Or if you actually want to split your drive up and use separate partitions for your Data etc. It's not as cut and dried as it would seem. Don't get me wrong, I do agree that some overcomplicate it. IMHO lack of knowledge contributes to a lot of it.
    I had Windows 8.1 Pro WMC installed before using the setup.exe in the 10 TP.


    Installed good.
    So how does that work on a blank drive with no OS on it? It sounds like your running setup.exe from the current Windows install. What do you do about the factory recovery partitions? Is that an EFI install?
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  9. #9


    Posts : 120
    Windows 10 Pro x64


    This is what I did on my last EFI install. Worked without a hitch.

    Plug in desired USB stick for installer use.
    Run the following commands:
    diskpart
    list disk
    select disk <x> (x being the USB disk you want to use, you can tell by the size in MB)
    clean
    create part pri
    select part 1
    format fs=fat32 quick
    active
    exit

    Then use WINRAR/7zip to extract the ISO to the USB. It will boot fine under UEFI and Legacy environments.
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  10. #10


    United States
    Posts : 3,093
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Maltesespace View Post
    This is what I did on my last EFI install. Worked without a hitch.

    Plug in desired USB stick for installer use.
    Run the following commands:
    diskpart
    list disk
    select disk <x> (x being the USB disk you want to use, you can tell by the size in MB)
    clean
    create part pri
    select part 1
    format fs=fat32 quick
    active
    exit

    Then use WINRAR/7zip to extract the ISO to the USB. It will boot fine under UEFI and Legacy environments.
    Copying this for future reference. Believe I've seen the procedure before but thanks for posting again.
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