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So, does the upgrade "really" need to have anything previously on HD?

  1. #81


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    But it doesn't seem as if you can activate it. Unless you jump through some hoops from what I have read.
    Yes, you can. Just try that by yourself.
    A lot of "blogger spetialists" just like to write, like to make theoretical suggestions
    and do not like just to check it out by themself. I know for sure: it faster to check it out by hands then to spent hours triyng to google the problem.

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  2. #82


    Quote Originally Posted by velisario View Post
    Hmmmm, still a bit of a grey area. I really want to give W8 a bash. But i'm not going to do it, if it means that a) I'll lose my right to use the W7 laptop and b) lose my current Vista OS that has all my software on it (if I did the straight upgrade from my desktop).
    The $14.99 has to be for a qualifying machine. I assume that your laptop with Windows 7 must be a recent purchase. From the loophole being closed, I think that if you decide to buy the $14.99 upgrade you will have to provide your Windows 7 key (since you couldn't have bought Vista recently and thus it wouldn't qualify for the $14.99 upgrade). According to MS, you can use this on another machine and upgrade that, and Vista qualifies as does XP to be upgraded). I think once you run the upgrade, info gets sent to MS and it will likely result in your Vista key being deactivated. Thus, you would no longer be using your copy of Vista (and it would be upgraded, and thus gone from your machine). You could keep using your WIndows 7 laptop.

    You could not take your vista key and software and install it onto another computer after doing this upgrade.

    That is what I would expect.
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  3. #83


    Quote Originally Posted by nikolator View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    But it doesn't seem as if you can activate it. Unless you jump through some hoops from what I have read.
    Yes, you can. Just try that by yourself.
    A lot of "blogger spetialists" just like to write, like to make theoretical suggestions
    and do not like just to check it out by themself. I know for sure: it faster to check it out by hands then to spent hours triyng to google the problem.
    My problem is that I cannot check it out. I have not bought the $40 upgrade, I don't have the media. I cannot perform the test myself.
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  4. #84


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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamer View Post
    Thanks Theog.

    I want to clarify further.After creating bootable USB,i don't want to run the installer from within Windows 7 rather than from the boot.Will the upgrading clean installation still work???
    Yes.
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    Thanks a bunch Theog.
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  6. #86


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    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamer View Post
    Hey guys.Just finished paying for upgrade offer and Windows 8 download is in progress.I am confused about one thing only.I will create a bootable USB and will do clean install over my Windows 7 partition.My question is does the Windows 8 Bootable USB detect the previous valid installation of Windows 7 before clean installing Windows 8??

    The reason i am asking is that i don't want to mess things up and end up with non-activated Windows 8 because it couldn't detect the Windows 7 and stops the upgrading.
    If you do not format the HD Drive before hand, Yes.
    Setup will make a folder called Windows. old.
    Windows.old Folder - Delete in Windows 8
    It's still not clear, wish someone can do a clean testing by deleting the partition, formatting the partition, reallocating the partition from within the setup(booting media).
    According to MS doing all this from within win8 setup is fine, it just shouldn't be done prior to that in which case u will not be able to activate it using the upgrade key.
    Which prior methods do they mean exactly?
    So, deleting and formatting all the partitions (not just C) form within setup is fine with the upgrade key?
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  7. #87


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    Quote Originally Posted by roofrider View Post



    It's still not clear, wish someone can do a clean testing by deleting the partition, formatting the partition, reallocating the partition from within the setup(booting media).
    According to MS doing all this from within win8 setup is fine, it just shouldn't be done prior to that in which case u will not be able to activate it using the upgrade key.
    Which prior methods do they mean exactly?
    So, deleting and formatting all the partitions (not just C) form within setup is fine with the upgrade key?

    Let me describe the steps i did to upgrade to Windows 8 hoping it will clear some confusion in some people's minds.

    I did what you call clean install using the upgrade key and bootable USB media.It is simple actually.

    Just download the Windows 8 using the upgrade utility and once download is complete,choose the install with media option.

    Create a bootable USB or bootable ISO DVD depending on your preference.I created USB media and restart my laptop with USB as bootable drive.

    I choose custom install and deleted the previous Windows 7 OS partition and installed Windows 8 on now unallocated space.

    Windows 8 installed and activated properly without any troubles.

    Maybe during the installation the install setup detects the previous OS installation and goes on from there.
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  8. #88


    dreamer,

    It sounds like you did something similar to my experience. I just D/L'ed another $39 copy of Windows 8 Pro to the same computer I used the first time, chose to create a bootable media, and then did a custom (clean) install to another computer. I tried to D/L the upgrade to a computer with only the release version of Windows 8 on it and it was not allowed by the upgrade utility. I assume the computer used for the D/L has to have the required previous version of Windows on it. Then I took the bootable media, chose custom install. format the HDD partition, and installed Win 8 to another computer of my choice.

    I think the previous operating system is detected by the upgrade utility and once the bootable media is created, you can install wherever you choose. At least, that's what I did. I then retired an old copy of Vista and one of XP.
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  9. #89


    Yes, the confusion always comes in from what a person means by "Clean Install".

    A clean install is commonly referred to as
    1). not upgrading what is there, but rather formatting and starting over
    2). starting from a blank hard drive that never contained an operating system, or at least a Microsoft OS.

    Dreamer, what you did was #1. It was an upgrade of your existing system, without bringing any of the cruft along with it, but rather starting over.

    What I wanted to do with this post is discuss what could happen in the event that your physical hard drive failed, you got a new "blank" hard drive and wanted to get your Windows 8 upgrade back on it without taking the time to reload a previous version of WIndows (any flavor) and then proceeding to move to Windows 8 from there.
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  10. #90


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Yes, the confusion always comes in from what a person means by "Clean Install".

    A clean install is commonly referred to as
    1). not upgrading what is there, but rather formatting and starting over
    2). starting from a blank hard drive that never contained an operating system, or at least a Microsoft OS.

    Dreamer, what you did was #1. It was an upgrade of your existing system, without bringing any of the cruft along with it, but rather starting over.

    What I wanted to do with this post is discuss what could happen in the event that your physical hard drive failed, you got a new "blank" hard drive and wanted to get your Windows 8 upgrade back on it without taking the time to reload a previous version of WIndows (any flavor) and then proceeding to move to Windows 8 from there.
    Aren't #1 and #2 essentially the same? Well, the install I tried today failed, so I formatted the HDD and used the same Win 8 bootable media I just purchased to do a re-install. The second try worked well and activated automatically. According to Microsoft I can purchase 5 Win 8 Pro upgrades. Two so far have been D/L'ed to the same 64 bit computer, I've got 3 purchases remaining. If I want a 32 bit version I'll have to use a computer with a 32 bit operating system for the download and retire an older version of Windows for each new upgrade install I perform.
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