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  1. #11


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    that's what I call the cloud terminals conspiracy. Conspiracy because they plan to rent everything we gone use. If it's not pay per usage.

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  2. #12


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    OS X and iOS are merging as well. Furthermore, with few exceptions, it won't be long before 'desktop computing' as we know it is gone, replaced by devices connecting to either public or private clouds. As things stand now, Citrix, Microsoft and VMware all have technologies which allow a server to handle the graphics processing for a remote desktop instance.
    This, is the mobile revolution
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  3. #13


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    Windows RT tablets, so far, have better hardware than the ipad. The only thing that is arguable there is the retina display, which I think I might sue apple for using that name as my body does not approve. The Surface RT has a quad core processor and two gigs of RAM along with expandable storage. The ipad does not. For a base of 500, the Surface is WAY better of a deal than the ipad, which is all honesty just the ipod touch x 4. Speaking of such, the Surface RT itself only costs roughly 270 to build, the touch cover is like 16 dollars. So Microsoft is actually getting some money off the tablets themselves and KILLER profit off of the touch cover.

    I call BS on touch PCs in general, especially mobile touch PCs. The average price of a Windows 7 PC at its launch is much lower than the average Windows 8 PC is now. Seriously, it's a tad difficult to find a touch enabled laptop under 1,000 dollars. Yet, touch AIOs are around 800 for better hardware specs. There is some serious markup going on here, as I'm still betting that OEMs are making the argument that their Windows 8 PCs are both tablets and laptops and therefore can charge a higher price that is lower than buying the two separately.

    But as for the future of Windows and eye candy, I'd like more metro eye candy. I want more digital motion, and just more modern ooze throughout. Glassy window frames that take up less than 10 percent of the total UI is irrelevant to me. I was using 7 the other day and I felt weird. The window UI controls glowed when I hovered over them, everything glowed, there were these gradient like textures on something that is meant to look like glass. It was just strange that this was the latest cool thing years ago. Honestly, I really don't really think Microsoft originally intended Aero design to be means of focusing less on the window chrome itself and more on the content of said window, seems more like to keep up with mac os more or less. After using Windows 8 for all this time and going back and using 7, I found myself looking more at the window chrome than anything. Maybe I was just dumbstruck by the faux design or something. With Windows 8 however, I've found I notice the window chrome less and less. Odd.

    Now I have to say, if you were running vista and had 16 gigs of RAM, that would be understandable as vista was radioactive pit of poo that even the developers that built vista didn't even run it on their personal machines. Even still with Windows 7, 16 gigs of RAM to run Aero is WAY overkill as they made the DWM more efficient and therefore use less VRAM and system RAM. I once ran 7 in a VM that only used one underclocked core of my CPU, 512 MB of RAM, and I believe I only dedicated 16 MB for video RAM. Aero worked fine as well as Windows itself. I think I also did that on the host system and set my motherboard's dedicated VRAM allocation to be 32 MB, worked great. It seems as long as the WDDM driver was current, Aero would work.
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  4. #14


    The hardware might be better in the surface, but it doesn't have the cool factor, the app ecosystem and will be hindered by the Windows name...that some find synonymous with crashes, viruses, spyware and malware.
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  5. #15


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    The Surface might not have a cool factor, yet. It's single handedly been the talk of the tech town since the past summer. Everyone that knows of it would consider it for a tablet. Shoot, it's designed WAY cooler than the ipad and this is without the bias. A built in kickstand is something that has been needed for phablets. A good and convenient is real desired. Even on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon when they had a segment about new gadgets coming out and the Surface was shown off, there was a remark that went, "It's like an ipad but better! This was the people need!" That was just about the kickstand. Most people that see the Windows name might associate it with crashes, viruses and other STDs; but most will associate it with work and getting things done. No one goes to best buy in search of a PC to walk out with an ipad, and if you do; you probably will end up with buyer's regret and depression after spending hundreds of dollars of add-ons just to make it act more like a PC; only finally to find out that there was a more cost effective tablet PC running Windows 8. App ecosystem isn't like the ipad, but the Surface carries the Windows name; of which developers pay attention to. Windows is Windows, and Windows is synonymous with apps and developers. It's a time value-added product. Even the iphone's app store started out with only a mere hundreds of apps. Now look at it. Same will happen with Windows 8.

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  6. #16


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    The Surface might not have a cool factor, yet. It's single handedly been the talk of the tech town since the past summer.
    Ya people was interested until they see the price, I know a reviewer on a well know forum , who can't wait to have one, when he see the price, he don't even want to make a review.


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Are Swiss Army knives considered cool?
    This is one of the coolest thing on the market and if you ask me , not that helpful
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  7. #17


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    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    that's what I call the cloud terminals conspiracy. Conspiracy because they plan to rent everything we gone use. If it's not pay per usage.
    You aren't that familiar with the concepts of cloud computing, are you?
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  8. #18


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kebero View Post
    You aren't that familiar with the concepts of cloud computing, are you?
    so you gone explain me ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kebero View Post
    I think a few people here don't understand the purposes of Hyper-V and VMware Workstation.
    seem you are good to say peoples don't know anything, but you don't care to explain why.
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    The Surface might not have a cool factor, yet. It's single handedly been the talk of the tech town since the past summer. Everyone that knows of it would consider it for a tablet. Shoot, it's designed WAY cooler than the ipad and this is without the bias. A built in kickstand is something that has been needed for phablets. A good and convenient is real desired. Even on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon when they had a segment about new gadgets coming out and the Surface was shown off, there was a remark that went, "It's like an ipad but better! This was the people need!" That was just about the kickstand. Most people that see the Windows name might associate it with crashes, viruses and other STDs; but most will associate it with work and getting things done. No one goes to best buy in search of a PC to walk out with an ipad, and if you do; you probably will end up with buyer's regret and depression after spending hundreds of dollars of add-ons just to make it act more like a PC; only finally to find out that there was a more cost effective tablet PC running Windows 8. App ecosystem isn't like the ipad, but the Surface carries the Windows name; of which developers pay attention to. Windows is Windows, and Windows is synonymous with apps and developers. It's a time value-added product. Even the iphone's app store started out with only a mere hundreds of apps. Now look at it. Same will happen with Windows 8.

    Are Swiss Army knives considered cool?
    But yet I don't know anybody personally that has one and aside from talk about the product, I don't know anybody with any plans to buy one either.
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  10. #20


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    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kebero View Post
    You aren't that familiar with the concepts of cloud computing, are you?
    so you gone explain me ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kebero View Post
    I think a few people here don't understand the purposes of Hyper-V and VMware Workstation.
    seem you are good to say peoples don't know anything, but you don't care to explain why.
    Because my inner snark is getting a bit sick of FUD, conspiracy theories, or people griping about products not working 'properly' when they are being used for the purposes other than what they intended.

    Cloud computing isn't some grand scheme to slowly drain money out of people's pockets. It's a natural evolution of an increasingly interconnected world. The nature of computing is shifting - things are becoming distributed across networks of various sorts. Google Docs, Office 365, webmail, SkyDrive & Dropbox are all various facets of cloud computing, and they aren't all 'rent my space' or 'pay to use me.' Yes, Office 365 has a subscription fee, but you also have the option of buying the stand-alone version of Office or using Office for free via SkyDrive or Google Docs. I can guarantee you that companies like Microsoft and Terramark also keep their data centres secured. They aren't just going to have servers someone can randomly get into whenever they want. This doesn't even begin to address the concept of a private cloud, where a company's internal data centre handles the distributed computing.
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