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64 bit and 32 bit?

  1. #11


    There is a reason to stay 32 bit. You either have old 16 bit software you need to run, or you have hardware without 64 bit driver support. Both are very valid reasons.

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  2. #12


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    There is a reason to stay 32 bit. You either have old 16 bit software you need to run, or you have hardware without 64 bit driver support. Both are very valid reasons.
    Not entirely.
    We have DosBox and 16bit on x64 works perfectly.

    In case of the older drivers support: I Agree with you.
    It's a bit rare to find such a (rather old) pc but 64 capable cpu these days.
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  3. #13


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    There is a reason to stay 32 bit. You either have old 16 bit software you need to run, or you have hardware without 64 bit driver support. Both are very valid reasons.
    Not entirely.
    We have DosBox and 16bit on x64 works perfectly.
    Sure, you can run any virtual machine type technology and it works. But this can be too much work for some people.
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  4. #14


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    There is a reason to stay 32 bit. You either have old 16 bit software you need to run, or you have hardware without 64 bit driver support. Both are very valid reasons.
    Not entirely.
    We have DosBox and 16bit on x64 works perfectly.
    Sure, you can run any virtual machine type technology and it works. But this can be too much work for some people.
    You bet!
    When I was a beginner and double-clicking on icon didn't worked, It DIDN'T worked!
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  5. #15


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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit, Ubuntu 13.04 64-Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    There is a reason to stay 32 bit. You either have old 16 bit software you need to run, or you have hardware without 64 bit driver support. Both are very valid reasons.
    DOSbox and Virtual machines handle such software, but in all seriousness... who has a 4GB+ 64-bit PC that still relies on DOS or Windows 3.1 software (on the consumer end, anyhow)? Who has a modern machine but still connects that old of devices to it? Most of the time, people put like with like... old machines have old devices and software, newer more powerful machines have modern stuff. It's never a good idea to mix them to start with. It's why I cannot stand when people put XP on core i7 4gb+ ddr3 such systems. They just don't belong together.

    So, there's no valid reason to gimp a modern day system with an antiquated architecture for the sole purpose of software or devices that -should not be on the machine- rightfully to start with. There is a reason nostalgic computer users keep old computers around, to continue to be compatible with their favorite, yet ancient stuff. The common person isn't going to be trying to put a 1998 printer on a 2012 computer. I mean seriously, you cannot expect a 2012 OS to hang onto support for software/hardware that's 15-20 years old, it's amazing if any of that stuff runs at all in Windows 8--- 32-bit even.
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  6. #16


    So far I haven't run into anything that I support (and that's a lot here at work) that won't work on a 64 bit OS. I've been running Windows 7 64 bit since our first Windows 7 computer and everything runs just like it should. I'll never go back to 32 bit.
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  7. #17


    Quote Originally Posted by giroux28 View Post
    under PC info it says I have the 32 bit windows 8 OS.

    I didn't know there was a 64 bit or 32 bit, because when I bought/downloaded windows 8 online from windows own website, it never gave me an option to choose between 64 or 32. I just bought it for about $67...

    so obviously I bought the 32 bit version and I guess there's no way of getting the 64 bit without making another purchase? there's a program I want to use that only works on 64 bit.. this is my fault, I guess.
    As far as I know, the cheap online upgrade can only be purchased using the Upgrade Assistant. The Upgrade Assistant automatically downloads at the same bit level as the OS of the PC it's run on. Microsoft recommends that if you wish to use a 64 bit upgarde on a 32 bit PC (must do a clean install) that you buy the retail upgrade DVD. (It's more expensive than the download.)

    However, you don't have to install the downloaded upgrade on the machine that downloaded it. You may install it on any PC that has a qualifying OS (XP Vista, 7). You can use that as a work-around to download the version at a different bit level than the target PC, as long as you have access to a PC running the right bit level of Windows.

    I did something slightly more complicated: the PC I wished to upgrade had the Win8 Enterprise evaluation version installed. (I had a System 7 Pro license on hand to qualify the upgrade.) The Upgrade Assistant would not let me buy the upgrade form the Win8 Ent. PC. (That versions can'tr be used to qualify the upgrade, officially.) I purchased it from another PC that runs Win7 X64. I didn't complete the download on that machine, though. Rather, I used a link in the order verification email to download it on the Win8 PC. I saved it as an .iso.

    I wish that the deal was offered like the pre-order for Windows 7, back in the summer of 2009. That was a straight purchase deal; you could buy and download either the 32 or 64 bit version directly from the Microsoft Store. I suppose that it might have been possible to do it from a Mac or a Linux box (if the MS Store didn't require Internet Explorer). On the other hand, the current promotional price is supposed to be offered for more than 3 months; the Win7 deal was for more like 3 weeks.

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  8. #18


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    I think you're allowed to use the key again on a clean install of the 64bit on the same pc.
    I hope this is correct.

    But this means I'll need to install an older 64 bit OS (Vista, XP, 7) and then install Windows 8 64 bit after that?

    I also ordered a DVD with my download, but I'm assuming that DVD is only the 32 bit version as well. Or is it even possible to have both 32 and 64 on one dvd?

    sorry, I'm a newb. I should've known this earlier before buying.
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by giroux28 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    I think you're allowed to use the key again on a clean install of the 64bit on the same pc.
    I hope this is correct.

    But this means I'll need to install an older 64 bit OS (Vista, XP, 7) and then install Windows 8 64 bit after that?

    I also ordered a DVD with my download, but I'm assuming that DVD is only the 32 bit version as well. Or is it even possible to have both 32 and 64 on one dvd?

    sorry, I'm a newb. I should've known this earlier before buying.
    Nope.

    See:

    Upgrade to Windows 8 - Microsoft Windows

    "Can I upgrade from a 32-bit version of Windows to a 64-bit version of Windows 8?

    Yes, but you can't do this using Upgrade Assistant. If your PC has a 64-bit capable processor (CPU) but is currently running a 32-bit version of Windows, you can install a 64-bit version of Windows 8 Pro, but you'll need to buy it as a DVD and perform a custom installation. If available in your country or region, you can buy Windows 8 Pro from a participating retail store. You can also buy it online from the Microsoft Store in Austria, Belgium, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, United Kingdom, and United States.
    Please note that the Windows 8 Pro Pack is used to upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 8 Pro, and is not for cross-architecture installs and does not include any media. If you want to change architectures, purchase Windows 8 Pro.
    You won't be able to keep any files, settings, or apps when you upgrade from a 32-bit to a 64-bit version."

    If you can come up with the 64 bit installer, you should be good to go.

    I don't know whether MS will give both versions in the backups DVDs. (For Windows 7, the official versions came on one DVD each.)

    Perhaps you should contact Microsoft. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they accomodated you. (Example: they could email you a download link for the 64 bit installer. It wouldn't cost them anything, except to pay for the time of one of their support people.)
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  10. #20


    Great. I'll wait and see once my DVD(s) arrive in the mail.
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