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"This is the future!"

  1. #21


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    No disrespect intended, but, I just watched all 4 videos on this thread. Wow... pure science fiction. And life styles of the rich and the rich. If civilization survives, (that's if) I doubt that level of advance would exist in 50 years. And if so, only in very tiny elite wealthy cultures. I mean, really, most of the planet has 3rd world status, and to think that humanity will rise to that level is not realistic. All those toys cost money. One does not need a $10,000 monitor to check the news and weather. Or a classroom that costs millions of dollars. In the 1950's and 60's we were expected to have highly advanced space travel capabilities by the year 2001. We can't even build a human transport pod to get to the moon today. Who can afford all this unnecessary tech? Our culture is devolving into the demolition man model (the movie). What about the 3rd world? Billions. They do not need touch devices. They need food and water and a job. Are we talking star wars tech here. Interplanetary space travel, time warp and wormholes? Star trek supposedly evolved the entire planetary culture such that everything was the same, no distinction between races, cultures or countries. And they apparently did away with money. So now we are talking 300 to 500 years into the future.
    The future? The future for whom? The wealthy and healthy.
    It's always been the case that a civilization is defined by how the upper 10 percent is doing. Why would we expect any change now? For every person that lives like in the video, there are a million that are starving and toil day and night to produce the goods that that one person uses.

    Keep that in mind when you watch those videos.

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  2. #22


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    mdmd & goodintentions,

    Good posts.

    If the population keeps growing at this rate - we may have a very different future.


    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    No disrespect intended, but, I just watched all 4 videos on this thread. Wow... pure science fiction. And life styles of the rich and the rich. If civilization survives, (that's if) I doubt that level of advance would exist in 50 years. And if so, only in very tiny elite wealthy cultures. I mean, really, most of the planet has 3rd world status, and to think that humanity will rise to that level is not realistic. All those toys cost money. One does not need a $10,000 monitor to check the news and weather. Or a classroom that costs millions of dollars. In the 1950's and 60's we were expected to have highly advanced space travel capabilities by the year 2001. We can't even build a human transport pod to get to the moon today. Who can afford all this unnecessary tech? Our culture is devolving into the demolition man model (the movie). What about the 3rd world? Billions. They do not need touch devices. They need food and water and a job. Are we talking star wars tech here. Interplanetary space travel, time warp and wormholes? Star trek supposedly evolved the entire planetary culture such that everything was the same, no distinction between races, cultures or countries. And they apparently did away with money. So now we are talking 300 to 500 years into the future.
    The future? The future for whom? The wealthy and healthy.
    It's always been the case that a civilization is defined by how the upper 10 percent is doing. Why would we expect any change now? For every person that lives like in the video, there are a million that are starving and toil day and night to produce the goods that that one person uses.

    Keep that in mind when you watch those videos.
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  3. #23


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    mdmd & goodintentions,

    Good posts.

    If the population keeps growing at this rate - we may have a very different future.


    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    No disrespect intended, but, I just watched all 4 videos on this thread. Wow... pure science fiction. And life styles of the rich and the rich. If civilization survives, (that's if) I doubt that level of advance would exist in 50 years. And if so, only in very tiny elite wealthy cultures. I mean, really, most of the planet has 3rd world status, and to think that humanity will rise to that level is not realistic. All those toys cost money. One does not need a $10,000 monitor to check the news and weather. Or a classroom that costs millions of dollars. In the 1950's and 60's we were expected to have highly advanced space travel capabilities by the year 2001. We can't even build a human transport pod to get to the moon today. Who can afford all this unnecessary tech? Our culture is devolving into the demolition man model (the movie). What about the 3rd world? Billions. They do not need touch devices. They need food and water and a job. Are we talking star wars tech here. Interplanetary space travel, time warp and wormholes? Star trek supposedly evolved the entire planetary culture such that everything was the same, no distinction between races, cultures or countries. And they apparently did away with money. So now we are talking 300 to 500 years into the future.
    The future? The future for whom? The wealthy and healthy.
    It's always been the case that a civilization is defined by how the upper 10 percent is doing. Why would we expect any change now? For every person that lives like in the video, there are a million that are starving and toil day and night to produce the goods that that one person uses.

    Keep that in mind when you watch those videos.
    Technology is not for everyone. In the past and even at present, only the privileged few enjoys the latest technology. So, I don't see why you have to bring up the poverty issue in the future of technology. Nothing else will change. The poor will be poorer, the rich will be richer. The video is not addressing poverty. It's addressing the future of technology which for me is so dreamy at this point.
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  4. #24


    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post

    Well said.
    Agree. As an old Hippie type I could write a thesis on what you just posted. :thumbup: I changed my avatar instead. I'm sure you get the gist.

    To keep it short, an ideological song authored by a man who ironically died a violent death like so many of his kind. He was certainly not the first to bring it to our attention looking through history. There were many more both male and female. Yes, when we do away with ALL OF OUR prejudices then we'll get somewhere as a species IMHO. If there's one character defect I dislike within myself it's most certainly that!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwUG...e_gdata_player
    Hahaha... you guys. Let the guy dream. It doesn't cost anything.
    Yes, you're right. It doesn't cost anything and quite honestly the ideology may never come true. Reality says that it will always be an imperfect world, but someone needs to set up targets to aim at. No harm in that either.
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  5. #25


    Just to make it clear, I speak from both perspectives (bottom dweller and upper). You know those coctail shrimps that people like to eat at parties? Ever wonder how or who made them that way (shell removed)? When I was little, I used to remove the shells off those shrimps for them to be exported to the west. Yeah, so the next time you eat those coctail shrimps, keep in mind that some poor 6 year olds bleeding fingers removed those shells for you.

    What I'd really like to see are videos of the same future about the bottom dwellers. I want to see how the lower half do if the upper are doing that well.
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  6. #26


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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Just to make it clear, I speak from both perspectives (bottom dweller and upper). You know those coctail shrimps that people like to eat at parties? Ever wonder how or who made them that way (shell removed)? When I was little, I used to remove the shells off those shrimps for them to be exported to the west. Yeah, so the next time you eat those coctail shrimps, keep in mind that some poor 6 year olds bleeding fingers removed those shells for you.

    What I'd really like to see are videos of the same future about the bottom dwellers. I want to see how the lower half do if the upper are doing that well.
    You have to let go of your perspectives sometimes. The video talks about Coke's favorite stuff.... touchscreens. You know the bottom dweller can't afford them. That's why they are not shown in the video. On the other thread you keep saying people there are talking past each other. Now, it's you doing it. This is not about rich & poor. This is about present & future technology. If you want I'll look up some video about shrimps for you.
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  7. #27


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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post

    Agree. As an old Hippie type I could write a thesis on what you just posted. :thumbup: I changed my avatar instead. I'm sure you get the gist.

    To keep it short, an ideological song authored by a man who ironically died a violent death like so many of his kind. He was certainly not the first to bring it to our attention looking through history. There were many more both male and female. Yes, when we do away with ALL OF OUR prejudices then we'll get somewhere as a species IMHO. If there's one character defect I dislike within myself it's most certainly that!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwUG...e_gdata_player
    Hahaha... you guys. Let the guy dream. It doesn't cost anything.
    Yes, you're right. It doesn't cost anything and quite honestly the ideology may never come true. Reality says that it will always be an imperfect world, but someone needs to set up targets to aim at. No harm in that either.
    I am with you sir. Well said.
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  8. #28


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    Maybe the other 99.99% will be these folk on the street

    sidewalk scene blade runner - YouTube
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  9. #29


    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Just to make it clear, I speak from both perspectives (bottom dweller and upper). You know those coctail shrimps that people like to eat at parties? Ever wonder how or who made them that way (shell removed)? When I was little, I used to remove the shells off those shrimps for them to be exported to the west. Yeah, so the next time you eat those coctail shrimps, keep in mind that some poor 6 year olds bleeding fingers removed those shells for you.

    What I'd really like to see are videos of the same future about the bottom dwellers. I want to see how the lower half do if the upper are doing that well.
    You have to let go of your perspectives sometimes. The video talks about Coke's favorite stuff.... touchscreens. You know the bottom dweller can't afford them. That's why they are not shown in the video. On the other thread you keep saying people there are talking past each other. Now, it's you doing it. This is not about rich & poor. This is about present & future technology. If you want I'll look up some video about shrimps for you.
    To quote Austin Powers, "ouch, baby."

    But seriously, I was half joking when I said that. I actually love those videos. I'm all for touch surfaces. In fact, I have a plan to put in some security stuff in my place controlled by touch devices. Sort of like star trek. My boyfriend is opposed to it, though. He doesn't want to be on camera all the time LOL.
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  10. #30


    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Just to make it clear, I speak from both perspectives (bottom dweller and upper). You know those coctail shrimps that people like to eat at parties? Ever wonder how or who made them that way (shell removed)? When I was little, I used to remove the shells off those shrimps for them to be exported to the west. Yeah, so the next time you eat those coctail shrimps, keep in mind that some poor 6 year olds bleeding fingers removed those shells for you.

    What I'd really like to see are videos of the same future about the bottom dwellers. I want to see how the lower half do if the upper are doing that well.
    You have to let go of your perspectives sometimes. The video talks about Coke's favorite stuff.... touchscreens. You know the bottom dweller can't afford them. That's why they are not shown in the video. On the other thread you keep saying people there are talking past each other. Now, it's you doing it. This is not about rich & poor. This is about present & future technology. If you want I'll look up some video about shrimps for you.
    To quote Austin Powers, "ouch, baby."

    But seriously, I was half joking when I said that. I actually love those videos. I'm all for touch surfaces. In fact, I have a plan to put in some security stuff in my place controlled by touch devices. Sort of like star trek. My boyfriend is opposed to it, though. He doesn't want to be on camera all the time LOL.
    Wew! I thought you two might get into it there for a minute. It got, well, sorta' honest and tense!

    I love happy endings!
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