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  1. #90


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    Windows 7


    Hello all,
    First of all i have to apologize for my English, I try the best.
    I bought a new laptop and with the laptop comes the windows 8 cd key. But i want to perform a clean install. How i do it without DVD or image ?. I want to re-install personally because where i bought it costs me 100 euro/install (100 euro = 140 U.S. dollars) and they just reset the windows, not clean install... i am not a fool, that's not real. They say: The cd key is burned into the laptop motherboard its a new technology if i do something wrong the motherboard can go nuts and my warranty goes, and things like that... just for money. Its a Dell Inspiron 15z, i found on the official microsoft windows webpage. What i have to do ? its true what the guys from the store telling me ? thx.

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  2. #91


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    64-bit Windows 10


    Hello Kether, and welcome to Eight Forums.

    For an OEM PC that came with Windows 8 preinstalled, you will be able to do a factory restore of Windows 8 instead. The link below at Dell can help show you how to.

    Windows 8 Dell Backup and Recovery - Windows 8 - Software & Operating Systems - Dell Community

    Hope this helps,
    Shawn
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  3. #92


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    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    I have a question related, in effect, to steps 7-8 of this tutorial and the 350 MB system-reserved partition. I have installed several ways leading to unallocated space on the install drive and ultimately to installation of the 350 MB system-reserved partition. The included ways are:

    1. Clean install of upgrade to Win8 Pro and
    2. Clean reinstall of Win8 Pro. In this case, I first applied steps 1-4 of SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation--which yielded unallocated space on the install drive. Then, I followed up with Clean Install - Windows 8 which resulted in the installation of the 350 MB system-reserved partition.

    Recently, however, I installed a dual boot (Win7 Ultimate and Win8 Pro) following Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista. In this regard, I shrunk my Win7 partition yielding D: with unallocated space. Then, in effect, I followed up with Clean Install - Windows 8. However, the 350 MB system reserved partition was not installed. I am trying to understand why not. Can you help in this regard?

    Is it possible that the contents of this partition are embedded in the D partition (or the C partition)? One reason I ask is that if I use the Windows 8 startup options menu, then all the troubleshooting options appear to be there--refresh, reset, and advanced options (including those under advanced options). In this regard, I tried only the command prompt, and it worked. Note also that my Win7 installation does not have the 100 MB system-reserved partition--as often is the case.
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  4. #93


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    64-bit Windows 10


    Hello Don,

    You didn't get a 350 MB partition since you didn't install Windows 8 by itself (no dual boot) on a completely unallocated disk.

    Installing Windows 8 on just an unallocated partition on a disk instead wouldn't give you the 350 MB partition.

    Hope this helps.
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  5. #94


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    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    I see; that was easy. Duh, the tutorial says "then you would need to make sure that all partitions on the drive have been deleted until it is only unallocated space." I was thinking I remembered exactly what the tutorial said, but I obviously didn't. Thanks much.

    I still wonder about the following.

    "... [Are the contents of the 350 MB] partition ... embedded in the D partition (or the C partition)? One reason I ask is that if I use the Windows 8 startup options menu, then all the troubleshooting options appear to be there--refresh, reset, and advanced options (including those under advanced options). In this regard, I tried only the command prompt, and it worked."

    Would all of these things be working? Embedded in D? "The 350 MB System Reserved partition is used for the Boot Manager code, BCD (Boot Configuration Database), System Recovery Options (Windows RE), and start up files for BitLocker (if turned on)."

    Obviously the boot items must be, I presume, on D.
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  6. #95


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    64-bit Windows 10


    Please go ahead and post a screenshot of your Disk Management window to see what's up.
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  7. #96


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    Thanks. Sorry didn't get back earlier. Didn't see you had posted back. I'm eager to see your interpretation of what has happened.

    Incidentally, to flesh out the history of the snip below, note that I started by using Acronis to restore an image of my old Win7 installation to my HP laptop on C: . The 100 MB system-reserved partition for this installation was not present after restoring, but I restored both the installation and it's MBR. I don't remember if the 100 MB partition ever was present.

    Then, I shrunk the Win7 partition, thus, creating D:, having only unallocated space. From here, I did a clean install of Win8 on D: .

    Note that Win8 is on C: below since I was running this OS when I made the snip.

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  8. #97


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    Hi Shawn:

    Please see Disk Management and additional info above. As indicated earlier (two posts back), I tried command prompt, and it worked. I went one step farther this morning checking to see that system restore works. I hesitate to ty repair startup. ??? And, I am reluctant to go down the reset or refresh path because I don't remember if you can opt out if either begins working.

    Thanks Don
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  9. #98


    Posts : 21,818
    64-bit Windows 10


    Hey Don,

    You didn't get the 350 MB System Reserved partition since W8 was installed on a system that had W7 installed first. If you didn't have any other Windows installed, and installed W8 on an unallocated hard drive, then you would have gotten the 350 MB partition.

    It's nothing to worry about though. You will still have the recovery options for W8 at boot.

    If you turn on BitLocker for the W8 partition, it will add a 350 MB system partition. There's no need to do this unless you just wanted to use BitLocker.
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    Cool. I was more curious than concerned. Still, I'd like to know what to expect if I decided to use, say, refresh or reset.

    So, is everything needed (i.e., all files) for all the recovery options to work, including reset and refresh, on the Win8 partition? I remember earlier seeing situations where some needed to "insert media" after going through Startup Options Menu > Troubleshoot. I would, of couse, have no problem inserting media, but I still am trying to get a handle on what all is installed and where.

    Interesting!!! So, if I turn bitlocker on now, then a 350 MB partition will be added. Will it contain only what is needed for bit locker to work? Or, for example, will it contain also all the files necessary for all the recovery options to work.
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