Windows 8 Boot Speed is INSANE

Avalon said:
davehc said:
I should have mentioned that, for my own relative tests, I am only concerned with a cold boot to the dual boot menu. No hybrid, no tweaks.
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Ah yes, fair enough then. I am really quite impressed with this Hybrid boot to be honest. I feel like my PC has now become a phone, so to speak.
I wonder if they will try to improve the cold boot more... I mean, if they're trying to shift focus towards UEFI, it'll be interesting to see how they deal with that (especially for dual boot users).
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I have a dual boot setup and hybrid boot still works great. The GRUB bootloader can either transfer control to the Windows bootloader, or boot into Ubuntu with the way I have it right now.
 

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That's because the 'shut down' function is a hybrid hibernate function. If you look, it still keeps a hibernation file store. Basically, the difference in Win8 is that it closes all the user processes but keeps some system processes and services still running so that it doesn't have to re-open them. Also, I'm led to believe this because my Lenovo Thinkpad makes an annoying beeping noise when either sleeping or hibernating (and waking up) that you can't avoid, and it makes this same noise when 'shutting down' in Windows 8.
 

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That leads me to the question whether it will always require the hiberfile. That could be a pain with a large RAM and small SSD for the OS.
 

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Well... surely the hiberfile isn't that ​big, right? SSD's are usually a standard 80GB these days (some are still 30 though).
 

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I don't even have a hiberfile.

It's not required with Win8 8102.
 

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mikedl said:
I don't even have a hiberfile.

It's not required with Win8 8102.
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I didn't realise... But it's not like I'm out of space or anything, so it doesn't concern me...
 

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Why did you even bring it up, then, Avalon?
 

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If there is no hiberfile (I still have to check that with WinDirStat), I wonder how that hybrid hibernate function works. They have to dump the RAM state somewhere. Maybe they use the shadows technique. That uses a lot less space.
 

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whs said:
If there is no hiberfile (I still have to check that with WinDirStat), I wonder how that hybrid hibernate function works. They have to dump the RAM state somewhere. Maybe they use the shadows technique. That uses a lot less space.
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Well it would make sense to only dump the in use / modified RAM, right? So in that case, if we're looking at System reserved RAM, then the actual boot process only involves restoring the in use / modified RAM from a written location- the rest of the PC boots up as normal, as the System's RAM is already predefined. Would that explain the fast hybrid boot speed?

When I say system RAM, I am referring to that thread you posted somewhere whs, in regards to RAM allocation. http://www.eightforums.com/general-...-observation-regarding-hardware-reserved.html
 

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Interesting - I am sure one day we will find out. The most compact way to store system states I have seen up to now are the shadows. Maybe they use this technology.
 

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Hi all

?????
Does this stuff matter

As a USER I find W8 boot amazing compared with previous Windows incarnations -- OK Geeks want to discover why -- but for me the fact IT WORKS FAST is just 100% OK for me.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Hi, Jim!

Start installing a bunch of programs ... indeed, Win8 8102 boot speed is quicker than Win7 boot speed but it degrades just the same as Win7 did after I first installed it.

Any fresh install boots quickly.
 

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