Windows 7 is back!

[mdmd]

Another one of those numbers drawn out of thin air.

...I really do not see any noticable difference in performance...

ok. what?

 

[alphanumeric]

I've noticed that notepad opens way faster on 8 than 7. End of discussion.

 

[whs]

I've noticed that notepad opens way faster on 8 than 7. End of discussion.

 

[caperjack]

wonder will this cause a uproar in a few of years ,from the people who take the offer and save 150.00$,when Microsoft discontinues support of win7 .maybe they will then look for a deal on Win9 or 10 ,I know they are likely to advance that date as they do will all windows os's .
its just been announced that Microsoft will keep updates/supporting MSE for winxp for another year

I imagine when support for Windows 7 ends - In 2021, as I have heard, THEN they will move to Windows 8.

opps,never thought it was that long away ,I guess that won't affect it

 

[ectech]

I've noticed that notepad opens way faster on 8 than 7. End of discussion.

LMAO!!

 

[mdmd]

I've noticed that notepad opens way faster on 8 than 7. End of discussion.

Sorry, I don't see the humor in it. Rather a silly comment. Notepad, is that a valid comparative benchmark. A joke. No one is claiming that programs run better in 8. Unless you have a slow system, it would be hard to compare to instant on programs that have no delay. Video conversion tools, compilers, disk scanning tools and other cpu - gpu resource takers will not yield high marks with any OS unless you might be using tesla or revo3x2 hardware.

And what, we have to stop our discussion? What? 8.1 boots in less than 10 seconds and that is irrelevant?
How fast does your installation of 7 boot to the desktop? I would like to know. Tell us.
Compare that with your analysis tool result?

Then a fan of 7 and Linux promotes their choice and declares 8 to be no better?

There is a volume of evidence that 8 gets to the desktop quicker than 7. Linux is irrelevant. It is generally unusable except by geeks. Who knows sudo? How about terminal? Can't wait to seek out dependencies.

So HP wants to bring back 7 to improve sales of hardware and customer satisfaction, fine, but that might not be so good if a customer turns on a 7 machine and it takes an annoying amount of time to boot.

What's the point here? That 8 stinks and 7 is better? Really? How many will soon upgrade to 8 because they don't wish to be less than up to date with what is available?

Geez, if a pc boots to the desktop in 15 seconds no matter what OS, and you can use it in 15 seconds,
and a boot analysis tool says that boot time is extended beyond that time frame, what do you believe?

 

[SIW2]

Sense of humour failure?

7 boots fast for me. It also resumes from hibernate damn fast. Not that it matters much.

The hiberboot thing is a little trick. Nothing wrong with that. People like small portable devices to start up fast.

The success other tech corps have had with all the information gathering and targeting etc, has not gone unnoticed by MS. They want a piece of the action. That is what 8/metro/little squares are for.

 

[mdmd]

Sense of humour failure?

Yes. I believe what I see, not fantasy data abstraction.

 

[alphanumeric]

I've noticed that notepad opens way faster on 8 than 7. End of discussion.

Sorry, I don't see the humor in it. Rather a silly comment. Notepad, is that a valid comparative benchmark. A joke. No one is claiming that programs run better in 8. Unless you have a slow system, it would be hard to compare to instant on programs that have no delay. Video conversion tools, compilers, disk scanning tools and other cpu - gpu resource takers will not yield high marks with any OS unless you might be using tesla or revo3x2 hardware.

And what, we have to stop our discussion? What? 8.1 boots in less than 10 seconds and that is irrelevant?
How fast does your installation of 7 boot to the desktop? I would like to know. Tell us.
Compare that with your analysis tool result?

Then a fan of 7 and Linux promotes their choice and declares 8 to be no better?

There is a volume of evidence that 8 gets to the desktop quicker than 7. Linux is irrelevant. It is generally unusable except by geeks. Who knows sudo? How about terminal? Can't wait to seek out dependencies.

So HP wants to bring back 7 to improve sales of hardware and customer satisfaction, fine, but that might not be so good if a customer turns on a 7 machine and it takes an annoying amount of time to boot.

What's the point here? That 8 stinks and 7 is better? Really? How many will soon upgrade to 8 because they don't wish to be less than up to date with what is available?

Geez, if a pc boots to the desktop in 15 seconds no matter what OS, and you can use it in 15 seconds,
and a boot analysis tool says that boot time is extended beyond that time frame, what do you believe?

It was a joke. You didn't notice the at the end?

 

[Wynona]

Shades of Windows Fanboys vs Apple Fanboys . . .

Debating the pros and cons of Windows 7 vs Windows 8 vs Windows 8.1 can be done without spearing our opponents, dontcha'll think?

 

[mdmd]

It was a joke. You didn't notice the at the end?

I do apologize for having no humor, as I have never used that smiley.

 

[mdmd]

Shades of Windows Fanboys vs Apple Fanboys . . .

Debating the pros and cons of Windows 7 vs Windows 8 vs Windows 8.1 can be done without spearing our opponents, dontcha'll think?

No. It is necessary to spear the opponent to make a point. Who is for Apple? Apple has no start menu.

 

[SIW2]

Why did Apple suddenly make an appearance? I can't see the relevance. A bicycle doesn't have a start menu either.

 

[mdmd]

Why did Apple suddenly make an appearance? I can't see the relevance. A bicycle doesn't have a start menu either.

It was mentioned in previous post. Is bicycle a new Linux distro?

 

[alphanumeric]

It was a joke. You didn't notice the at the end?

I do apologize for having no humor, as I have never used that smiley.

That's Ok, it just surprised me that somebody would actually take it seriously. I thought the "notepad opens faster" was an old joke?

 

[whs]

Aren't we having fun. I enjoy to roughen up the fanboys a bit. Their lack of humor makes it even more fun. You can predict the answers before they are posted.

 

[Wynona]

Shades of Windows Fanboys vs Apple Fanboys . . .

Debating the pros and cons of Windows 7 vs Windows 8 vs Windows 8.1 can be done without spearing our opponents, dontcha'll think?

No. It is necessary to spear the opponent to make a point. Who is for Apple? Apple has no start menu.

hehehe They don't? Geez . . . maybe we should spear Apple then?

 

[MasterChief]

In addition, nothing worthy as far as any type of production can be accomplished in any form whatsoever in the Start screen, whether it be music, video, engineering or anything like that at all. It is taking computing and turning it into a tv screen, practically zombifying the masses to tune in to the corporate agenda.

Are you referring to the Start Screen or the Modern UI? The Start Screen just launches the application, be it a program or App. In that sense it doesn't really have any impact on production. Production then depends on what program you launched to accomplish the task. If you are talking about the Modern UI then yes, you likely won't get it done with the current Apps that are available. That's what desktop programs are for. Once you launch those your not in the Modern UI anymore so its not a factor. If your running Windows RT your point would be very valid. If your running Windows 8 or 8.1, not so much.

In my post, I made it clear that the worry is about Microsoft moving in a direction to abandon the desktop and that thankfully, the public has slowed them down somewhat.

The Start screen is the playground. I understand how it all works. I just don't want to re-imagine a computer like that. lol

 

[alphanumeric]

In addition, nothing worthy as far as any type of production can be accomplished in any form whatsoever in the Start screen, whether it be music, video, engineering or anything like that at all. It is taking computing and turning it into a tv screen, practically zombifying the masses to tune in to the corporate agenda.

Are you referring to the Start Screen or the Modern UI? The Start Screen just launches the application, be it a program or App. In that sense it doesn't really have any impact on production. Production then depends on what program you launched to accomplish the task. If you are talking about the Modern UI then yes, you likely won't get it done with the current Apps that are available. That's what desktop programs are for. Once you launch those your not in the Modern UI anymore so its not a factor. If your running Windows RT your point would be very valid. If your running Windows 8 or 8.1, not so much.

In my post, I made it clear that the worry is about Microsoft moving in a direction to abandon the desktop and that thankfully, the public has slowed them down somewhat.

The Start screen is the playground. I understand how it all works. I just don't want to re-imagine a computer like that. lol

If the rumors turn out to be true, they are actually going the other way. They are making the Modern UI more like the desktop. Options like being able to pin (Metro) Apps to the taskbar, being able to resize the Modern UI screen. Windows RT would be a good candidate for going the other way, full Metro. It's almost that now anyway. You can't install or run any desktop programs other than what's already on it, and those were recoded to make them work in Windows RT. They likely could kill the taskbar etc on that and pull it into the Metro UI. IMHO, it couldn't hurt to differentiate it more form the normal Windows 8/8.1. Time will tell.

 

[CritterCreek]

The cited article seems a bit deceptive. The HP website shows 34 Windows 8 and 8.1 laptops, and only TWO windows 7 laptops. I can't find anything at the HP website about $150 back for choosing Windows 7 on a laptop. Does anyone have a link?