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Win8.1, how to kill a task without seeing it
Every now and then, a game or something crashes. The crashed window of the game remains thou, and blocks all viewing of the desktop.
This has annoyed for for a long time. Are there any way to get around this?
Often I have to restart my computer and break downloads and open apps etc.
OS
Windows 8
System Manufacturer/Model
-
CPU
i5 3570K
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX670 FTW
Right click Taskbar & choose Task Manager & End Task of the crashed item.
OS
Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
Computer type
PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model
Gateway
CPU
AMD K140 Cores 2 Threads 2 Name AMD K140 Package Socket FT1 BGA Technology 40nm
Motherboard
Manufacturer Gateway Model SX2110G (P0)
Memory
Type DDR3 Size 8192 MBytes DRAM Frequency 532.3 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
ATI AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
Sound Card
AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio USB Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Name 1950W on AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x76
Screen Resolution
Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x768 pixels
Hard Drives
AMD K140
Cores 2
Threads 2
Name AMD K140
Package Socket FT1 BGA
Technology 40nm
Specification AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon HD Graphics
Family F
Extended Family 14
Model 2
Extended Model 2
Stepping 0
Revision ON-C0
Instruction
Browser
Opera 24.0
Antivirus
Avast Internet Security
Cannot do that as I can't see anything.
OS
Windows 8
System Manufacturer/Model
-
CPU
i5 3570K
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX670 FTW
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Cannot do that as I can't see anything.
Ctrl + Alt + Delete should get you a link to the Task Manager.
(@ David: Just helpin ya out a bit! )
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium
Computer type
PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model
HP Pavillion
PC2
Tablet - Windows 10 Home
Cannot do that as I can't see anything.
Ctrl + Alt + Delete should get you a link to the Task Manager.
(@ David: Just helpin ya out a bit! )
Thanks.
OS
Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
Computer type
PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model
Gateway
CPU
AMD K140 Cores 2 Threads 2 Name AMD K140 Package Socket FT1 BGA Technology 40nm
Motherboard
Manufacturer Gateway Model SX2110G (P0)
Memory
Type DDR3 Size 8192 MBytes DRAM Frequency 532.3 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
ATI AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
Sound Card
AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio USB Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Name 1950W on AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x76
Screen Resolution
Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x768 pixels
Hard Drives
AMD K140
Cores 2
Threads 2
Name AMD K140
Package Socket FT1 BGA
Technology 40nm
Specification AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon HD Graphics
Family F
Extended Family 14
Model 2
Extended Model 2
Stepping 0
Revision ON-C0
Instruction
Browser
Opera 24.0
Antivirus
Avast Internet Security
Well, I know of these things, but my point is that I cannot *SEE* enough to do that. The crashed 3D-application is still like a layer over the whole desktop even thou it actually stopped running.
OS
Windows 8
System Manufacturer/Model
-
CPU
i5 3570K
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX670 FTW
OS
8.1 Pro X64
Computer type
PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model
Acer T690
CPU
Intel Pentium D Dual Core
Motherboard
Acer/Intel E946GZ
Memory
2GB (max upgrade)
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 - PCI Express x16
Sound Card
Integrated RealTek ALC888 high-definition audio with 7.1 channel audio support
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL1917W A LCD
Screen Resolution
1440 X 900
Hard Drives
350 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
Thumb drives
PSU
Standard 250 watt
Case
Desktop 7.2" (183mm) W x 17.5" (445mm) L x 14.5"
Cooling
Dual case fans + CPU fan
Keyboard
Acer Windows PS/2
Mouse
Wireless Microsoft Arc
Internet Speed
54mbp/s
Browser
IE11
Antivirus
Defender
Other Info
Office Pro 2013 / Nokia Lumia 1520 Windows Phone 8.1DP GDR1
Alt-F4 doesn' work either.
OS
Windows 8
System Manufacturer/Model
-
CPU
i5 3570K
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX670 FTW
Well, if Alt/F4 doesn’t rid it nothing will. Did you wait awhile for it to work? If so, we have to conclude it is in a frozen state and nothing short of a hard reset will work to rid it. Not a good thing I know. Let’s find the reason why the game crashes or does this happen with other programs as you hinted below?
Every now and then, a game or something crashes.
Which game and how old?
OS
8.1 Pro X64
Computer type
PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model
Acer T690
CPU
Intel Pentium D Dual Core
Motherboard
Acer/Intel E946GZ
Memory
2GB (max upgrade)
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 - PCI Express x16
Sound Card
Integrated RealTek ALC888 high-definition audio with 7.1 channel audio support
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL1917W A LCD
Screen Resolution
1440 X 900
Hard Drives
350 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
Thumb drives
PSU
Standard 250 watt
Case
Desktop 7.2" (183mm) W x 17.5" (445mm) L x 14.5"
Cooling
Dual case fans + CPU fan
Keyboard
Acer Windows PS/2
Mouse
Wireless Microsoft Arc
Internet Speed
54mbp/s
Browser
IE11
Antivirus
Defender
Other Info
Office Pro 2013 / Nokia Lumia 1520 Windows Phone 8.1DP GDR1
A GOG-game this time. Other old games sometimes. Yes, they are frozen. It's not permanent, it's very random.
OS
Windows 8
System Manufacturer/Model
-
CPU
i5 3570K
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX670 FTW
I'm older and not a gamer in the true sense. I play solitaire, mahjong, and other "older people" games.
Excuse my ignorance then and tell me what GOG-game is. Gog.com?
Do you install them in compatibility mode? Play these through a browser?
OS
8.1 Pro X64
Computer type
PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model
Acer T690
CPU
Intel Pentium D Dual Core
Motherboard
Acer/Intel E946GZ
Memory
2GB (max upgrade)
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 - PCI Express x16
Sound Card
Integrated RealTek ALC888 high-definition audio with 7.1 channel audio support
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL1917W A LCD
Screen Resolution
1440 X 900
Hard Drives
350 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
Thumb drives
PSU
Standard 250 watt
Case
Desktop 7.2" (183mm) W x 17.5" (445mm) L x 14.5"
Cooling
Dual case fans + CPU fan
Keyboard
Acer Windows PS/2
Mouse
Wireless Microsoft Arc
Internet Speed
54mbp/s
Browser
IE11
Antivirus
Defender
Other Info
Office Pro 2013 / Nokia Lumia 1520 Windows Phone 8.1DP GDR1
It's basically old games with new installers, made to work with new computers. They also have some new games. All GOG-games are also DRM free.
OS
Windows 8
System Manufacturer/Model
-
CPU
i5 3570K
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX670 FTW
Ok. I see. I gotta take a break away from this machine. I'll be back.
Did this always do this or just recent? On other OSs? Is there anything you found in game forums or online for a cure? Run in a VM perhaps?
Where did you other two helping out go?
OS
8.1 Pro X64
Computer type
PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model
Acer T690
CPU
Intel Pentium D Dual Core
Motherboard
Acer/Intel E946GZ
Memory
2GB (max upgrade)
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 - PCI Express x16
Sound Card
Integrated RealTek ALC888 high-definition audio with 7.1 channel audio support
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL1917W A LCD
Screen Resolution
1440 X 900
Hard Drives
350 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
Thumb drives
PSU
Standard 250 watt
Case
Desktop 7.2" (183mm) W x 17.5" (445mm) L x 14.5"
Cooling
Dual case fans + CPU fan
Keyboard
Acer Windows PS/2
Mouse
Wireless Microsoft Arc
Internet Speed
54mbp/s
Browser
IE11
Antivirus
Defender
Other Info
Office Pro 2013 / Nokia Lumia 1520 Windows Phone 8.1DP GDR1
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running old games on new hardware always had issues ,back in the early dayse they used emulators and stuff with all sorts of issues iam not a gamer either,so just a suggestion ,gog support link .and gog stands for good old games ,
Games Support - GOG.com
OS
win8.1.1 enterprise
Computer type
PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model
Hinze57
CPU
AMD FX 6100 6core 3.30gHz
Motherboard
gigibyte ga-78lmy-s2p
Memory
4gig ddr3
Graphics Card(s)
Radon hd5000 Series
Sound Card
onboard realtek hd
Monitor(s) Displays
19" viewsonic/ 22"Samsung
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
128gig ssd Kingston
80gig WD 10000 rpm spinner
Case
micro
Keyboard
microsoft curve 200
Mouse
Logitech wireless M215
Internet Speed
high speed 20
Browser
ie 11
Antivirus
windows defender
Other Info
updated enterprise apr 2/14
It's not really a GOG issue. Other older games and apps does it from time to time. I've usef taskkill from time to time, but this time it didn't work
OS
Windows 8
System Manufacturer/Model
-
CPU
i5 3570K
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX670 FTW
Retired from the grind
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As for answering the original question. If the process has crashed, it should not be in running processes. There are times when you end up with an Orphaned process out there eating up CPU cycles.
You can use Sysinternals Process Explorer at microsoft.com, to show all processes. Whether they are running or just hung up.
OS
Linux Mint 17.2
Computer type
Laptop
System Manufacturer/Model
Toshiba Satellite C850D-st3nx1
CPU
AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon (tm) HD Graphics 1.40 GHZ
Memory
12GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon™ HD 7310 Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
LCD
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768
Hard Drives
Crucial M500 240GB SSD
Mouse
Logitech M525
Internet Speed
45/6 - ATT U-Verse
Browser
Google Chrome
Antivirus
None needed. It is Linux.
Other Info
Arris NVG589 Gateway; Router - Cisco RV320; Switch - Netgear GS108 8-Port Switch & Trendnet TEG-S50g 5-Port Switch; Access Points - Engenius ECB350, Trendnet TEW-638APB; NAS - Lenovo ix2-4; Printer - Brother HL-2280DW; Air Print Server - Lantronix XPrintServer
A/V UPS - Tripp-Lite Smart 1500LCD 1500 Va/900 W.
Ok, the real problem is that I cannot see any app at all. The frozen or crashed game lies like a layer I cannot alt-tab out of. Is there any alternative to hard reboot?
OS
Windows 8
System Manufacturer/Model
-
CPU
i5 3570K
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX670 FTW
Retired from the grind
VIP Member
Pro User
I take it that you never used SysInternals Process Explorer to look for an Orphaned process out there, that is hung up and not shut down.
OS
Linux Mint 17.2
Computer type
Laptop
System Manufacturer/Model
Toshiba Satellite C850D-st3nx1
CPU
AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon (tm) HD Graphics 1.40 GHZ
Memory
12GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon™ HD 7310 Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
LCD
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768
Hard Drives
Crucial M500 240GB SSD
Mouse
Logitech M525
Internet Speed
45/6 - ATT U-Verse
Browser
Google Chrome
Antivirus
None needed. It is Linux.
Other Info
Arris NVG589 Gateway; Router - Cisco RV320; Switch - Netgear GS108 8-Port Switch & Trendnet TEG-S50g 5-Port Switch; Access Points - Engenius ECB350, Trendnet TEW-638APB; NAS - Lenovo ix2-4; Printer - Brother HL-2280DW; Air Print Server - Lantronix XPrintServer
A/V UPS - Tripp-Lite Smart 1500LCD 1500 Va/900 W.
No harm in trying Process Explorer, I guess
OS
Windows 8
System Manufacturer/Model
-
CPU
i5 3570K
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-M
Memory
Corsair 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX670 FTW
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VIP Member
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Things like that usually get stuck in video card memory so windows can't do much about it. Unless you can refresh desktop, there's not much you can do about it.
OS
Windows 8.1 Pro
Computer type
PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model
Home made
CPU
AMD Ryzen7 2700x
Motherboard
Asus Prime x470 Pro
Memory
16GB Kingston 3600
Graphics Card(s)
Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
Hard Drives
Samsung 960 evo 250GB
Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
WD 1 TB Blue
WD 2 TB Blue
Bunch of backup HDDs.
PSU
Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
Case
Raidmax
Cooling
CCM Nepton 140xl
Internet Speed
40/2 Mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
WD