Solved Update from Windows 8 to First Windows 8.1

Juliet68 said:
Shawn, I don't see a step 13 in Option 3 of the article "How to upgrade from Windows 8, windows 7, vista, or XP to windows 8 or 8.1" as you stated in the instructions for Option One-Upgrade to winows 8.1 via Window Store" in step 11.
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Sorry, that should have been step 13 in Option Four instead. I missed updating this when I updated the other tutorial. :eek:
 

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Juliet68 said:
alphanumeric said:
I do believe the Store Upgrade to 8.1 now includes update 1. That will save the second step of hitting Windows update for update 1. It might also reduce the chances of something going wrong in the process.
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For sure?
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I haven't confirmed it myself, but I've seen at least one forum member mention they had all the update 1 features after doing the Store Upgrade to 8.1. Without doing any other updates.
 

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CountMike said:
Juliet68 said:
CountMike said:
One thing I do before upgrading to 8.1 is to make sure there are newest, compatible drivers installed, the system is in tip-top shape with no ongoing issues. "Killing" third party programs in Startup and at least temporarily suspending third party AV is also good idea.
Also heard of problems with some start menu customizers.
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I read to check the drivers as well and I think it includes instructions to do so. I have no idea what 3rd party programs and 3rd party AVs are. Can you explain, please.
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Third party programs like Start 8, or other customizing programs that change default settings.
Third party antivirus programs that stay resident, other than Windows Defender ( Avast, AVG Norton, Kasperski etc).
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Hi, just confirming that my Norton 360 has to be disabled before I start the 8.1 upgrade, right?
 

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Can I run the "Microsoft Upgrade Assistant" just to check to see if windows 8 meets the requirements for upgrading to 8.1 without having to continue the upgrade program? I'm confused because in one article that I've read, it says after the upgrade assistant program is finished finding nothing wrong you will be directed to Windows Store to start the process. I don't want to start the actual upgrading, I just want to see results of checking my computer.

Thanks
 

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Brink said:
Hello Juliet,

I'm afraid so. You'll need to update to Windows 8.1 from Windows 8 first. Doing so from the Store would be the easiest way.
Afterwards, you would just keep checking and installing all of your Windows Updates to eventually update to Windows 8.1 Update.
Hope this helps, :)
Shawn
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Shawn, when I updated my laptop with Windows 8 on it, when the Store got through, I had the April 8 Windows 8.1 Update, although I didn't have KB9219355. I think I may have been one of the first to have this happen, but it seems as if MS has included Windows 8.1 Update with the upgrade to Windows 8.1 . . .
 

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alphanumeric said:
I do believe the Store Upgrade to 8.1 now includes update 1. That will save the second step of hitting Windows update for update 1. It might also reduce the chances of something going wrong in the process.
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It does, Alpha, it does! :) My laptop got all the way updated to Windows 8.1 Update in one fell swoop!
 

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Wynona said:
Brink said:
Hello Juliet,

I'm afraid so. You'll need to update to Windows 8.1 from Windows 8 first. Doing so from the Store would be the easiest way.
Afterwards, you would just keep checking and installing all of your Windows Updates to eventually update to Windows 8.1 Update.
Hope this helps, :)
Shawn
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Shawn, when I updated my laptop with Windows 8 on it, when the Store got through, I had the April 8 Windows 8.1 Update, although I didn't have KB9219355. I think I may have been one of the first to have this happen, but it seems as if MS has included Windows 8.1 Update with the upgrade to Windows 8.1 . . .
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That's normal. When you update via the Store, the Windows 8.1 Update is installed directly using an image instead of the updates. :)
 

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Juliet68 said:
Can I run the "Microsoft Upgrade Assistant" just to check to see if windows 8 meets the requirements for upgrading to 8.1 without having to continue the upgrade program? I'm confused because in one article that I've read, it says after the upgrade assistant program is finished finding nothing wrong you will be directed to Windows Store to start the process. I don't want to start the actual upgrading, I just want to see results of checking my computer.

Thanks
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Sure, Juliet. However, if your computer came with Windows 8 on it, you're probably good to go. Never hurts to confirm things, though.

BTW, when I upgraded my Windows 8 laptop to Windows 8.1 on April 8 (could have been April 9), I got the whole shebang! Lappy now has Windows 8.1 Update and is very proud of herself, since she was one of the first to get the latest and greatest! :)
 

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Juliet68 said:
Can I run the "Microsoft Upgrade Assistant" just to check to see if windows 8 meets the requirements for upgrading to 8.1 without having to continue the upgrade program? I'm confused because in one article that I've read, it says after the upgrade assistant program is finished finding nothing wrong you will be directed to Windows Store to start the process. I don't want to start the actual upgrading, I just want to see results of checking my computer.

Thanks
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That's a good thing to do, it's not 100% sure but it's a good start. There's one expressly for 8.1. Also check in advance if your drivers are up to date before upgrading, Maybe you should also make a complete system backup beforehand or at least important data.
 

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Wynona said:
Juliet68 said:
Can I run the "Microsoft Upgrade Assistant" just to check to see if windows 8 meets the requirements for upgrading to 8.1 without having to continue the upgrade program? I'm confused because in one article that I've read, it says after the upgrade assistant program is finished finding nothing wrong you will be directed to Windows Store to start the process. I don't want to start the actual upgrading, I just want to see results of checking my computer.

Thanks
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Sure, Juliet. However, if your computer came with Windows 8 on it, you're probably good to go. Never hurts to confirm things, though.

BTW, when I upgraded my Windows 8 laptop to Windows 8.1 on April 8 (could have been April 9), I got the whole shebang! Lappy now has Windows 8.1 Update and is very proud of herself, since she was one of the first to get the latest and greatest! :)
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Thanks for the info. :roflmao:Your comment re your lappy being proud of herself.......had me doing this:roflmao:twice!
 

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CountMike said:
Juliet68 said:
Can I run the "Microsoft Upgrade Assistant" just to check to see if windows 8 meets the requirements for upgrading to 8.1 without having to continue the upgrade program? I'm confused because in one article that I've read, it says after the upgrade assistant program is finished finding nothing wrong you will be directed to Windows Store to start the process. I don't want to start the actual upgrading, I just want to see results of checking my computer.

Thanks
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That's a good thing to do, it's not 100% sure but it's a good start. There's one expressly for 8.1. Also check in advance if your drivers are up to date before upgrading, Maybe you should also make a complete system backup beforehand or at least important data.
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Thanks for the info. I check my HP Support Assistant practically every day to see if there are any updates, HP and Microsoft, and install that same day. So, I'm pretty sure my drivers are up to date. I'll be sure to check right before I start the upgrade as well.
I already did my Recovery DVD's if that's what you're referring to.....that was fun to do. However, can you tell me the correct name of the program that I should use to back up files as well as the other stuff that wasn't included in the Recovery discs? And, should I disable/remove or whatever my Norton 360 program before updating?

Thanks.
 

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Brink said:
Juliet68 said:
Shawn, I don't see a step 13 in Option 3 of the article "How to upgrade from Windows 8, windows 7, vista, or XP to windows 8 or 8.1" as you stated in the instructions for Option One-Upgrade to winows 8.1 via Window Store" in step 11.
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Sorry, that should have been step 13 in Option Four instead. I missed updating this when I updated the other tutorial. :eek:
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Shawn, I have the complete instructions now but I have a question(s) that hopefully I can post tomorrow.
 

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How do I print this whole thread? I can't find any info on it.
 

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Juliet68 said:
Wynona said:
Juliet68 said:
Can I run the "Microsoft Upgrade Assistant" just to check to see if windows 8 meets the requirements for upgrading to 8.1 without having to continue the upgrade program? I'm confused because in one article that I've read, it says after the upgrade assistant program is finished finding nothing wrong you will be directed to Windows Store to start the process. I don't want to start the actual upgrading, I just want to see results of checking my computer.

Thanks
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Sure, Juliet. However, if your computer came with Windows 8 on it, you're probably good to go. Never hurts to confirm things, though.

BTW, when I upgraded my Windows 8 laptop to Windows 8.1 on April 8 (could have been April 9), I got the whole shebang! Lappy now has Windows 8.1 Update and is very proud of herself, since she was one of the first to get the latest and greatest! :)
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Thanks for the info. :roflmao:Your comment re your lappy being proud of herself.......had me doing this:roflmao:twice!
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HaHa, wait until you hear from StarFerret . . . she's a riot.

BTW, as you probably know by now, this is one of the greatest bunches of folks around. They just fall all over each other trying to help us. As well as giving help, I've had as much and more help given to me.
 

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Juliet68 said:
Brink said:
Juliet68 said:
Shawn, I don't see a step 13 in Option 3 of the article "How to upgrade from Windows 8, windows 7, vista, or XP to windows 8 or 8.1" as you stated in the instructions for Option One-Upgrade to winows 8.1 via Window Store" in step 11.
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Sorry, that should have been step 13 in Option Four instead. I missed updating this when I updated the other tutorial. :eek:
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Shawn, I have the complete instructions now but I have a question(s) that hopefully I can post tomorrow.
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Ok. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have.

Juliet68 said:
How do I print this whole thread? I can't find any info on it.
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Usually you can click on File (menu bar) in your browser, and click on Print to print the current page.
 

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Hi everyone! I want to thank all of you on this thread for your expert help so I could update to 8.1. If I didn't have your help, it never would have been updated. This website is the best one I've been on. You are definitely a great bunch and so very helpful.

I did have some problems with the upgrade, but had nothing to do with this group. It was all about an error code that I received during the installation, but eventually it was corrected. My son was here during the upgrade, after he took me out to lunch for my birthday. He could not believe the steps that had to be taken to make sure my laptop was okay for the update. He had it done on his HP desktop without any advanced steps and had no problems whatsoever.


The support person at Microsoft said I need to purchase an optimizer for my laptop for just $200.00! Well, that hasn't happened yet...need to get the money first. Plus, I'm not even sure what this program does.

Again, thanks for your much needed help.

Lynn
 

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alphanumeric said:
Brink said:
Great news Lynn.

Forget the optimizer. Most are snake oil, and certainly not worth $200. I can't believe that they would recommend something so expensive. :shock:

If you like, you can pick and choose from the list in the tutorial below to help optimize Windows 8/8.1 for free.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/37511-optimize-performance-windows-8-a.html
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:ditto: To the snake oil part, and :ditto: to the I can't believe they would actually recommend it part. :eek:
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What kind of optimizer does MS have for 200 bucks ? I don't believe I heard of something like that.
 

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