RTM is ugly as heck

Additionally, the window borders also look softer somehow in release preview. Did Microsoft do this because it is faster to render square windows? No alpha channel to blend. Windows 8 is supposed to run on tablets with arm SoCs.

I wonder if I can use the aero.msstyles from RP, until skins appear.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8
Worth a try - see if it does the job
 

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System One

  • OS
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
I'll be very happy when the good folks at Wincustomize release Windowblinds 8.0.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro x64
    CPU
    Core i3
    Memory
    8GB
    Hard Drives
    120 GB Intel 520 SSD
    Mouse
    Logitech M525
I wonder if I can use the aero.msstyles from RP, until skins appear.

Already tried. It's a no go. I opened the file from RP and RTM with reshack. The number of images does not match.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 RTM (Retinas taking damage...)
    CPU
    i5 2500
    Motherboard
    msi p67a-g43
    Memory
    16 GB DDR3 1333
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Nvidia 9800 GTX+
Ugly? Really?

My first thought was "Damn, it's beautiful, I will never go back to Windows 7"
Then I tested BF3 and found at it didn't work, whimpered a little, rebooted to Windows 7. My first thought then "Damn, this is so old and horrible comparred to Win 8 :("

(My friend that sat next to me reluctantly agreed with me ;) )

I know that feeling! :cool:
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
Windows 8 = Windows Vista. Some will like it, but many will detest it. No way around it.

I think I'll just wait for Windows 9.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Tansformer Book Flip TP500LN
    CPU
    Intel i5-4210U
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce GT 840M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    1TB Hybrid
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 4000
This unlike Enterprise version won't be of any use as you will have to enter a product key even to INSTALL the product.

Cheers
jimbo


Really? You could install 7 without a product key. You would just get "windows is not genuine" instantly, but you would still be able to use the system.
 

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    Windows 8 RTM (Retinas taking damage...)
    CPU
    i5 2500
    Motherboard
    msi p67a-g43
    Memory
    16 GB DDR3 1333
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Nvidia 9800 GTX+
Well I am using it now... didn't need any key but it does say windows is not activated.
Not really blown away with it, it just looks unfinished. I liked the RP better.
 

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  • OS
    windows 7
Well I am using it now... didn't need any key but it does say windows is not activated.
Not really blown away with it, it just looks unfinished. I liked the RP better.

Hi there
did you read my post -- Windows 8 ENTERPRISE doesn't prompt or need a key but are you really installing Windows 8 PRO

If so please post screenshot after the installation or or we really going back to the "Land of the Trolls".

W8 Pro hasn't yet appeared on any of the usual places yet -- and believe me -- I KNOW about this sort of stuff.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10
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    PC/Desktop
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 X LG 40 inch TV
    Hard Drives
    SSD's * 3 (Samsung 840 series) 250 GB
    2 X 3 TB sata
    5 X 1 TB sata
    Internet Speed
    0.12 GB/s (120Mb/s)
Ops! Your right my bad! I installed Enterprise...sorry I didn't have full concentration when I read your post, my partner was talking to me at the same time lol
 

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  • OS
    windows 7

This unlike Enterprise version won't be of any use as you will have to enter a product key even to INSTALL the product.

Cheers
jimbo


Really? You could install 7 without a product key. You would just get "windows is not genuine" instantly, but you would still be able to use the system.

They just changed that in Windows 8. I had to write down the activation keys for Consumer Preview and Release Preview. The reason Enterprise allows you to skip activation is because companies need a central activation server.
 

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    Windows 8.1
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    Laptop
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    Asus Tansformer Book Flip TP500LN
    CPU
    Intel i5-4210U
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce GT 840M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    1TB Hybrid
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 4000
MS fixed at least one thing

At least MS fixed (in W8 Enterprise RTM) whatever was preventing my sound driver from installing (in W8CP & W8RP).
It actually had some working Live Tiles too. :shock:

Now all I have to do is install some real programs:

  • Firefox
  • IrfanView
  • Foxit
  • Winamp
Once that's done I might be able to play around with it.

Metro (sorry, the GUI formerly known as Metro) is still awful.
I guess I'll have to install Classic Shell.

The Apps aren't very useful.
The blinding white colour scheme is annoying.

Mysteriously, my VirtuaWin KvasdoPager toolbar had to be reinstalled in W7(!), after I created and ran the W8 VHD. :confused:
 

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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 18.3 MATE (64 bit)
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    n/a
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Ares F3-1333C9D-8GAO (4GB x 2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD6450
    Sound Card
    Realtek?
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S23B350
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA), Western Digital 2 TB (SATA), Western Digital 3 TB (SATA)
    Case
    Tower
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    Wired Optical
    Other Info
    Linux Mint 16 MATE (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 17 MATE (64 bit) - 2014-05-17
    Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 16 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-11-13
    Ubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-01-14
    RAM & Graphics Card Upgraded - 2013-01-13
    Monitor Upgraded - 2012-04-20
    System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
    HDD Upgraded - 2010-08-11, 2011-08-24,
Here goes an image of this beauty.

Microsoft has definetely lost its mind.

View attachment 7572

Link to see and download: Removed

Wow, Hello Windows 2000 :( I never wanted to see the "color" grey on my computer UI ever again! :(

I think I've figure out why they /destroyed/ the visuals of the desktop though. By comparison, Metro looks beautiful now. Yet another carefully planned way of forcing you (through mind control this time) to use the metro screen. After working in the colorless wasteland of the desktop for a while, the sight of some color on the start screen will have you breathing a sign of relief!!!
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7/8
Well I am forcing myself to use the Enterprise RTM...and I am slowly getting used to it. Its not to bad and I am coming around to the new style, it's definitely cleaner and crisper looking!
 

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  • OS
    windows 7
LOL.

The rtm is interesting.

There is a news app. of some kind on the start screen .

Bizarrely, it takes me to some kind of Guardian online paper.

I quite like that - have used it a few times. It is not necessarily better than some kind of similar gadget, or a shortcut to take me to Guardian online from the desktop - but it is ok.

When I get to the Desktop - it is bland and 2 dimensional - but not as hideous as I feared. I don't mind that too much, there will be various things from our friends at Deviantart to improve it.

What I do mind is the forcing of Metro ( or whatever they are going to call it).

That is where MS have gone wrong.

Instead of ripping out code and pushing constantly to the start screen - they should have made it somewhere people want to go.

There were always going to be compromises - putting a phone UI as well as the Main UI means they have to take some stuff out simply to make room.

If they do it carefully - I don't think that would be a major issue.

Making Media Centre a separate download is not in itself a bad idea - it make space - you don't bother with it if you don't want it - and MS can update it more easily. ( Not sure about charging extra for it - but that is different question.)

The fix is very simple.

Put back the explorer/desktop functionality the customers want, and make the app. store and related services attractive, so users choose to go there.
 

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  • OS
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
The problem with media player being gone is that mpeg 4 (and other) video formats are also gone. The one hope of there being a universal, always ready video format which Windows 7 was making happen is now gone for good.

If something isn't installed by default, programs cannot make use of it at all.

If you have a program that needs to playback mpeg 4 video we are now back to each program having to license and install a codec/player leading to pure codec hell like XP. Windows 7 was a video utopia by comparison (Even if it didn't support the hacked mkv formats)
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7/8
Media player is still there. It's just media center that needs to be downloaded separately.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 RTM (Retinas taking damage...)
    CPU
    i5 2500
    Motherboard
    msi p67a-g43
    Memory
    16 GB DDR3 1333
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Nvidia 9800 GTX+
Media player is still there. It's just media center that needs to be downloaded separately.

I just checked and the leaked RTM version has neither.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Tansformer Book Flip TP500LN
    CPU
    Intel i5-4210U
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce GT 840M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    1TB Hybrid
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 4000
Media player is still there. It's just media center that needs to be downloaded separately.
I just checked and the leaked RTM version has neither.
RTM "N" has no media player. It's because of some regional restriction. If you download the leaked 8 pro, there is media player.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 RTM (Retinas taking damage...)
    CPU
    i5 2500
    Motherboard
    msi p67a-g43
    Memory
    16 GB DDR3 1333
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x Nvidia 9800 GTX+
VLC should do the job.

Anybody see if xbmc works in there?
 

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  • OS
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
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