Optional Update KB3000850

Got this optional update (KB3000850) today and no information yet.
It was 723.9 MB and took forever to install.

I will wait for the information to be posted before I update my Laptop.

UPDATE: MS just released the information. Its a Nov 2014 rollup so that is why it was so big.

https://support.microsoft.com/kb/3000850


Jim :cool:
 
Just installed AVG free edition, had to do it via As administrator but otherwise no problems. Avast will have to do a lot of work to get back close to top again.
 

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I also have Avast, latest paid version.

I updated my 8.1 desktop and had all the above mentioned problems and lags. I let it do a automatic cleanup on boot or whatever it's called many times and still no go, especially when running control panel, it would hang for 10 minutes or so. I re imaged drive C 4 times and duplicated the problem every time.
I finally was able to remove kb3000850 and thought all was good but have found it's only better or not soooo bad.
I've got an image of the C drive that I've been restoring from.
What an egg MS laid this time.

I have the paid version Avast also.
 
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I had no problem with the download. My machine was stuck at: “Keep your PC on until this is done. Installing update 1 of 1″ after the restart. After 2 hours and no start, I forced it to quit. Crossing my fingers I started normally to find that 3000780 had failed. I will not try again.
 

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I took the plunge and installed it. Did have to turn off anti-virus (Comodo) as it wasn't doing much during the download portion except for high CPU usage and lots of disk activity. Assume Comodo was trying to scan the download in real-time causing a serious slow down.
All went well after disabling it. Whew! :)
 

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I took the plunge and installed it. Did have to turn off anti-virus (Comodo) as it wasn't doing much during the download portion except for high CPU usage and lots of disk activity. Assume Comodo was trying to scan the download in real-time causing a serious slow down.
All went well after disabling it. Whew! :)

Well that went smooth :)
Had high disk usage and CPU activity while downloading and installing in mine too.
 

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Hi there

I was having the same issues as lots of others here, slow startup, network not being picked up. wouldn't shut down, wouldn't restart. displays would stay blank with only the mouse cursor on. Finally i read on my work laptop that others were having same issues and common theme was Avast antivirus / internet security, my main pc is the only one with Avast (paid for version) my htpc, wifes laptop, daughters pc and laptop all run F-secure (virgin media deal) all had been updated with latest m/s updates and no issues.
Well the trouble i had actually getting Avast to uninstall, took nearly 3 bloody hours of messing around, let alone the 5 or 6 hours of trying to sort out and fix whatever had gone wrong but the second Avast was removed everything started to work again, could open control panel, run CCleaner and Malwarebytes, update Adobe Lightroom, start up shut down and restart all working again. I didn't need to go an have a 3 course meal while waiting for my wired network adaptor to be picked up either, its picked up as per normal now as soon as the lock / login screen appears.

Regards
Keith W

I won't be reinstalling Avast even though i've still got 9 months to run on my subscription.
 

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No problems with update for me went in smooth maybe 15 min. and rebooted. Been 2 days. No Avast here though, one most hate Norton Internet Security, but gave me no issues with update.
 

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Latest update from avast https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=160717.msg1153446#msg1153446

"We have been able to simulate the problem in our lab and I think we fixed this issue. This Windows updates calls new memory related functions which are not fully compatible with avast. We'll prepare EmUpdate with the patched driver tomorrow morning (it means, all & new avast installations should be patched immediately, that's how it works)."
 

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As KB3000850 is a 'rollup' update, am I correct to assume that it contains ALL the patches released since the last 'rollup' update? I have applied all the important updates since I got my Windows 8.1 machine, so do I need to apply this one? Thanks.
It is a rollup of previously unreleased optional updates, which fix specific things and unless your computer was affected by it, windows update would not even recommend it to you. It says optional, so no critical or recommended updates, it is most likely something like 8.1.2, silently released service pack.
 

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    50/50 MBps
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    No AV & No Firewall
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After install this update I appears "hard unknown error ". Missing folders in all disk , no icon on desktop. Unistall update everything is Ok.What is the problem i dont know. 3 days fight the problem, but did not find solution. Please tell me where to look for error.
 

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    asrock extreme3 gen3
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    Gtx 580 Sli
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    Firefox
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    Nod32
Latest update from avast https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=160717.msg1153715#msg1153715

"The fix is prepared and it is currently in last phases of testing in our quality department. Once the testing is done, it is going to be released as an EmUpdate. Please understand that we do not want to underestimate the testing, because the update introduces a change in one of Avast drivers.

Thank you all for your patience!"


The Avast problem came to light pretty quickly probably because of the high number of users it has but I'm just wondering if there's any other software out there that's been affected by this update?

Clearly Microsoft didn't do enough testing of the update in real world scenarios before it's release and have been very shy at coming forward with an explanation for the problems so far.
 

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Too late for me, already switched AV and not only because of this problem. None, absolutely none of other SW I have exhibited no change since that update.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro
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    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
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    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
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    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
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    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
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    Raidmax
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    CCM Nepton 140xl
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    40/2 Mbps
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    Firefox
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    WD
I dont have avast .Can not run anything from the control panel




unless programs and components.Until now I never had problems with updates . Unistall
kb3000850 update until somebody help me to solve the my problem.
 

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    intel i7
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    asrock extreme3 gen3
    Memory
    8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gtx 580 Sli
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Nod32
I must admit that I'm slightly surprised that so many of you don't have backup images available so that you can revert back to them when problems like this arise and instead rely on system restore or uninstalling things which can leave a trail of debris in its wake.

W8.1 includes the facility, there is no need for any software to be installed. You really should use it.
 

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    Intel i5/AMD Turion 64
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    4Gb/2Gb
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    250Gb SSD and 120Gb
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    HP Z4000
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    MS Edge
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Along time ago it was commonly know there were two types of users.
Those who had a crash and were not backed up and those who had not had a crash yet.
 

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Well, I have tried many times without success to install this update.

Attached is a copy of my latest CBS log, if anyone can help with it.

Thanks.
 

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I must admit that I'm slightly surprised that so many of you don't have backup images available so that you can revert back to them when problems like this arise and instead rely on system restore or uninstalling things which can leave a trail of debris in its wake.

W8.1 includes the facility, there is no need for any software to be installed. You really should use it.
I always keep at least 2 system backups (one monthly) but it's just a last resort, better to try and find a cause of a problem first and eventually fix it.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro
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    Home made
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    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
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    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
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    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
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    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
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    Firefox
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    WD
I do a Image every time before installing these things, esp when one is this large. matter of fact I use 3 and sometimes 4 Imagining programs (just in case), I learned early on what happens when you hose your system and can't "fix" it :), took me 3 full days of re installing my OS and all my programs one time.

that said, I had no problems D'L, installing, or after a cold reboot.

as for AV I use COMODO V7
 

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    HP
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I always keep at least 2 system backups (one monthly) but it's just a last resort, better to try and find a cause of a problem first and eventually fix it.

I never see using a backup as a last resort. Certainly have a try and see where something has gone wrong first, but then I wouldn't hesitate to reinstall a backup and knowing then how to fix the problem when it happens again, fix it right first time... if that makes sense :) In other words, learn from it all when its gone, but then go back to a perfect incorrupt image and then do it right.

Once you start installing, uninstalling, installing again then I think that's the start of a slippery slope.
 

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    4Gb/2Gb
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    Intel i5 internal/NVidia GEFORCE GO 6100
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    Realtek
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    250Gb SSD and 120Gb
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    HP Z4000
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    76 down, 20 up
    Browser
    MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
I always keep at least 2 system backups (one monthly) but it's just a last resort, better to try and find a cause of a problem first and eventually fix it.

I never see using a backup as a last resort. Certainly have a try and see where something has gone wrong first, but then I wouldn't hesitate to reinstall a backup and knowing then how to fix the problem when it happens again, fix it right first time... if that makes sense :) In other words, learn from it all when its gone, but then go back to a perfect incorrupt image and then do it right.

Once you start installing, uninstalling, installing again then I think that's the start of a slippery slope.
Only once since staring with Win8 I had to resort to full backup restoration and that's because of dead HDD. All other problems were fixed.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
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    WD
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