Office 2013 retail is tied to 1 machine forever

ok Pparks,

i read this somewhere, do not recall where; anyway i was wrong.

sorry


jeff
 

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So that's why pirates are working on activators more.
This is really a stupid thing, why the heck people would buy a retail priced software with the limitations of an OEM license?
 

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MS is hoping you won't and instead you will see value in the subscription based office 365.
 

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I kinda get why they don't want you too move it to a different machin or install it on more pcs. However one thing I'm concerned about is what if I want to upgrade my HDD and install a fresh copy of windows ? Do you think they won't allow you to get it activated if you do so? I hope it's the motherboard that it's assigned to not HDD. Also I wonder what would you do if you upgrade from Windows 7 to 8 and you do clean install?
 

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I kinda get why they don't want you too move it to a different machin or install it on more pcs. However one thing I'm concerned about is what if I want to upgrade my HDD and install a fresh copy of windows ? Do you think they won't allow you to get it activated if you do so? I hope it's the motherboard that it's assigned to not HDD. Also I wonder what would you do if you upgrade from Windows 7 to 8 and you do clean install?

I presume that it would be similar to re-installing an OEM copy of the OS. Microsoft would usually permit you to activate the new installation of Office 2013. You may have to do it by phone, though. You may even have to do it with the aid of a human.

It's at Microsoft's discretion, and if they refused to activate the new installation, you wouldn't have much (legal) recourse other than buying a new license.
 

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Crash, no crash; upgrade, downgrade, stolen, not stolen, etc., etc. . . .

Although I beta tested Office 15, I guess I'll also be bypassing Office 2013/15 and/or Office 365 for the simple reason that Office 2010 continues to work well for me on both Windows 7 & Windows 8. I didn't beta test Office 365 because you can't have both on the same computer. Or, that's what I was told during the beta.

Oh, and I didn't see much difference between Office 14 & Office 15.
 

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Crash, no crash; upgrade, downgrade, stolen, not stolen, etc., etc. . . .

Although I beta tested Office 15, I guess I'll also be bypassing Office 2013/15 and/or Office 365 for the simple reason that Office 2010 continues to work well for me on both Windows 7 & Windows 8. I didn't beta test Office 365 because you can't have both on the same computer. Or, that's what I was told during the beta.

Oh, and I didn't see much difference between Office 14 & Office 15.

Now what i see is office 2013 is just a flattened 2010.
 

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Flattened or not, I'm not paying for five copies of Office 2013 when I already own three copies of 2010 which will stretch over all five of my 'puters. :mad:

Besides, there were just too many bugs remaining for me when 2013 RTM'd. Especially in Excel which I use extensively.
 

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Good job I only paid £59 for my university version of office 2013. I get a 4 year subscription and free upgrade to new versions (if one does come out in the 4 year period) and I can install it on two pc's, which suits me fine cause I can activate and deactivate them when need to. When the 4 years is up I'll see what the options are, maybe upgrade again, go back to office 2010 or switch to a free version.
 

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The wording in the license agreement is there to protect Microsoft and its rights to it's products, and is very restrictive towards the end user. Exceptions to the license agreement can be made by Microsoft at any time.
Well that is not what the EULA says, it's not what all the tech sites say, it's not what the Microsoft forums say, etc.
In Germany it's not allowed to bind standard software to hardware and so Microsoft German press speaker Frank Mihm-Gebauer says: Because of special laws German customer can natural transfer their Office 2013 to another PC without any restrictions.
 

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wow so if one really needed to purchase the OS and Windows for 2 desktops and 3 laptops in their house.. they could be better off just getting an MSDN subscription????
 

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wow so if one really needed to purchase the OS and Windows for 2 desktops and 3 laptops in their house.. they could be better off just getting an MSDN subscription????

Perhaps you meant TechNet. MSDN is significantly more expensive. And technically, TechNet is only for evaluation, it is not designed to be run full time.
 

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wow so if one really needed to purchase the OS and Windows for 2 desktops and 3 laptops in their house.. they could be better off just getting an MSDN subscription????

Perhaps you meant TechNet. MSDN is significantly more expensive. And technically, TechNet is only for evaluation, it is not designed to be run full time.


nah I was thinking MSDN.. but I thought the price was A LOT cheaper than that.. $6k now for the one that includes office.. ummmm WOW...

Buy an MSDN Subscription
 

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Iirc that was a High Court decision initially brought re oem os installation.

The EU is a but more enlightened than other places, perhaps.


The wording in the license agreement is there to protect Microsoft and its rights to it's products, and is very restrictive towards the end user. Exceptions to the license agreement can be made by Microsoft at any time.
Well that is not what the EULA says, it's not what all the tech sites say, it's not what the Microsoft forums say, etc.
In Germany it's not allowed to bind standard software to hardware and so Microsoft German press speaker Frank Mihm-Gebauer says: Because of special laws German customer can natural transfer their Office 2013 to another PC without any restrictions.
 

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If your Windows and Office installations are in a Virtual Machine, can you not run the VM on any physical hardware and host OS?
 

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If your Windows and Office installations are in a Virtual Machine, can you not run the VM on any physical hardware and host OS?

im new here so been treading light..
to me.. if it is tied to 1 machine.. I feel you should be able to run it in a VM..

however I keep reading all the debates.. I get that the license is tied to 1 machine now... however.. (playing both sides)..
you CAN install it on more that one machine.. the entire debate is the legality not the physical aspect... so I get the whole.. Microsoft doesn't want you to.. they want you to buy more.. but you can install it on multiples.....there is no physical item stopping you from doing so....

im just saying....
 

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If your Windows and Office installations are in a Virtual Machine, can you not run the VM on any physical hardware and host OS?

im new here so been treading light..
to me.. if it is tied to 1 machine.. I feel you should be able to run it in a VM..

however I keep reading all the debates.. I get that the license is tied to 1 machine now... however.. (playing both sides)..
you CAN install it on more that one machine.. the entire debate is the legality not the physical aspect... so I get the whole.. Microsoft doesn't want you to.. they want you to buy more.. but you can install it on multiples.....there is no physical item stopping you from doing so....

im just saying....

Um yes, it has to activate and will refuse to do so. Thus not allowing multiple installs.
 

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...there is no physical item stopping you from doing so...
Activation?
 

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I have to say several things:

No one is really running vista these days as even Windows 8 is slowing encroaching on that marketshare. Microsoft secretly hates it and wants to get rid of it as it is literally a fail for them and something they want to pave over. This is also similar to what they've done with xp, not porting over IE 9, not building Office 2013 for it, and I think a couple of other things as a) in technological years it is a dead cat and b) it's not terribly secure as a system and Office 2013 would simply look disturbing on xp in my opinion.

Doing the claculations, Office 365 is a better deal than just 2013. If you buy the latest version that gets released every few years, you end up saving considerable money with the new price structure. The Office apps that come with the 365 Home Premium version seems to be the same as Office 2013 Professional Plus, which retails for 400 dollars. Office 365 Home Premium is that for 100 dollars a year, or 10 dollars a month (which I bet would be real nice for students as they probably would only use the software certain months out of the year) along with 20 gigs of SkyDrive storage which would be 410 dollars with 2013. With 365, it seems you will also be upgraded to the latest version of Office for free. So in three years, 300 dollars for the equivalent of 2013 Pro Plus and the separate SkyDrive storage which would be 410. One hundred and ten dollars of release cycle savings. So when comes time for Office 2016, you'd still need to use Office 2013 Pro Plus for an extra year before you get that benefit of 365, THEN pay the 400 dollars again to upgrade to 2016. Except 365 allows for 5 PCs whereas you'd have to pay 2,000 dollars for the same with Office 2013 Pro Plus, so actually, your savings would end up being 1,700 dollars per release cycle of three years if you use the 5 PCs.

So basically, using 365 allows you to use the software on a monthly basis, or year long basis; gives you 20 gigs of extra SkyDrive storage over the base 7 gigs, you get the latest version for free, and you get the whole Office suite as well. All in all, 110 dollars of savings. Seems legit I'd say. There isn't much of a rational argument against it as the software is natively installed on the PC, for five of them, documents can either be saved to SkyDrive or natively on the hard drive, and you get settings and custom dictionaries transferred over as well as SkyDrive documents. Faster, easier, better, and cost effective, along with preventing piracy to an extent.

One must not underestimate Microsoft, when it comes to business, they KNOW what they're do for real!
 

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