Frustrated with search!

Between Linux gui search and Windows Search, there is only this: The Linux will eventually have usable results.
 

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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
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    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
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    2 GB/3GB
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    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
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    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
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    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
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    "1842 x 1036"
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    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
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    Works 550w
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    MSI "M-Box"
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    Water Cooled
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    Dell Keyboard
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    Microsoft Intellimouse
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    Cable Medium Speed
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    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
It found what I was looking for INSTANTLY, and the Windows Searches are STILL choking on it, both the Metro Search and the Bread-crummy Search.

You think Windows Search is awful (IMO it is)?
Try doing a GUI search in Linux.

I also always turn Windows Search service off.

Even though it's awkward and error prone, you can't beat the CLI tools in Linux like find for applying commands to stuff. And editors like vi. Of course I tout vi but I don't use it. It scares me!!! I'm afraid I'll walk down the street twitching my fingers going in and out of Command Mode. :) But you can do some stuff that most Windows users would not attempt with a free editor(unless it's a port of vi that is.) :)
 

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    Windows 8.0 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Satelite C55D-A Laptop
    CPU
    AMD EI 1200
    Memory
    4 gb DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Raedon 340 MB dedicated Ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Built in
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    640 GB (spinner) Sata II
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Touch pad
I got vi in my phone, but I don't know how to get into it via my terminal app.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
Edit- I didn't have Vi, now I do. Heh
 

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My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
Between Linux gui search and Windows Search, there is only this: The Linux will eventually have usable results.

My experience is the exact opposite. :)

My friend says that the KDE Search tool is good, but it totally thrashes your HDD.
He knows how to do Terminal searches, so he disables the GUI search.

Even though it's awkward and error prone, you can't beat the CLI tools in Linux like find for applying commands to stuff.

I need more practice with the Terminal search commands.
I used them once or twice during my Networking course.

And editors like vi. Of course I tout vi but I don't use it. It scares me!!!

We used vim in my Networking course.
It did have some handy abilities.

I don't like using the Terminal (or Command Prompt) because it's too easy to make a typo and (potentially) totally destroy your system.
I also find the default setting, "Don't tell the user what I just did", very annoying.

Edit- I didn't have Vi, now I do. Heh

That's a very scary combo - touchscreen keyboard and vi. :eek:
 
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 18.3 MATE (64 bit)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    n/a
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Ares F3-1333C9D-8GAO (4GB x 2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD6450
    Sound Card
    Realtek?
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S23B350
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA), Western Digital 2 TB (SATA), Western Digital 3 TB (SATA)
    Case
    Tower
    Mouse
    Wired Optical
    Other Info
    Linux Mint 16 MATE (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 17 MATE (64 bit) - 2014-05-17
    Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 16 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-11-13
    Ubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-01-14
    RAM & Graphics Card Upgraded - 2013-01-13
    Monitor Upgraded - 2012-04-20
    System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
    HDD Upgraded - 2010-08-11, 2011-08-24,
It plugs in to my terminal program. Originally, I didn't have networking commands like Ping, I had to download a pack for those commands. Still, even without any addons, the terminal in iOS is pretty handy.

If course, it is difficult to manage Vi. I think what I got is called "New Vi" made by Saurik. The guy is a genius, and he don't even consider himself part of the Jailbreaking "scene" - He made stores for both IOS and Droid. Most of the stuff he's made was done when iOS was a lot easier to jailbreak. I think it was around the time of iOS 5, Apple really started making it difficult, but unsigning their old IPSW packages. For a while you cold fake them out if you had your SHSH blobs, you could stitch the IPSW package you wanted to install, but now even that don't work.

Can you imagine the uproar is Microsoft started doing that with Windows? We'd either be forced to install 8.1 or we'd be stuck with 7, or 8, with no way to go back to XP if we needed. App signing is one thing, but doing it to the whole OS suicks raw seawage.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
Can you imagine the uproar is Microsoft started doing that with Windows? We'd either be forced to install 8.1 or we'd be stuck with 7, or 8, with no way to go back to XP if we needed. App signing is one thing, but doing it to the whole OS suicks raw seawage.

Agreed.

That is my main complaint about most of the rulings against MS.
I don't necessarily disagree with the rulings, but I do object to the fact that they only apply to MS.

Once a practice is deemed to be illegal for one company, it should be illegal for ALL companies (e.g. bundling).

Also, subsequent offenders should receive more severe punishments (after all, they can't say that they didn't know it was illegal).
 

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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 18.3 MATE (64 bit)
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    n/a
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Ares F3-1333C9D-8GAO (4GB x 2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD6450
    Sound Card
    Realtek?
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S23B350
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA), Western Digital 2 TB (SATA), Western Digital 3 TB (SATA)
    Case
    Tower
    Mouse
    Wired Optical
    Other Info
    Linux Mint 16 MATE (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 17 MATE (64 bit) - 2014-05-17
    Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 16 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-11-13
    Ubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-01-14
    RAM & Graphics Card Upgraded - 2013-01-13
    Monitor Upgraded - 2012-04-20
    System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
    HDD Upgraded - 2010-08-11, 2011-08-24,
75% of my repair work is In-Place Installs, I charge at most 75 bucks to do it (For Businesses), usually 50 (For actual people), and I can usually get MS re-activate me once I give the key from the box. Most stores and shops charge 99 minimum, plus the cost of a key. Normally the Windows 7 systems- the people bring their own recovery medium and one of the disks will be a regular Windows 7 install disk, and it is pre-activated for that system, so it's no problem, they reactivate, or, the moment I connect to the net, it activates. Dell used to be very good with giving customers Install Disks, all of my old Optiplex workstations, I still have the XP disks, it goes in like butter and activates instantly. Were these systems that self-activated Core systems, the Windows Key was in the BIOS? I could never figure that out.

But this new deal, seems like the Key is invalidated the moment it is used in a system, you can't even use it in case of re-install. So there have been a few very unhappy customers who had to buy a key just to put the same OS they had- They had changed CPUs or something, Video Cards or some other hardware. And I have not had to deal with someone who had a Core version installed, I don't know what to do, if their key will not work - I think I read that happening in here. The OEMs want people to totally DEPEND on a "recovery partition" rather than be able to do an actual repair of the OS.

This is why I keep a large collection of install disks, even larger than my comic book collection, and it goes all the way back to 1993. Once a year I use every single one of them at least once.

My main concern is keeping costs down for my clients. Biggest problem is, they bring systems in that they were either given, or they bought from someone, and they got nothing. One guy brought me one of the first Lenovo Laptops, and the Hard Drive was LOCKED. Totally impossible to get into it, the only thing he could do with it was toss it in the garbage.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
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