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  1. #11


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    I went into the task manager under Microsoft>Windows>Setup> gwx and GWXTriggers folders and disabled ALL the tasks located there and it seems to have removed the Win10 update from windows updates, at least until they (Microsoft update) somehow works around it.

    I had already done the registry hack to remove the Win10 icon from the task bar.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 562
    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    Thanks Cliff. Almost out of juice on this Android. More tomorrow.
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  3. #13



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    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    Thanks Cliff. Almost out of juice on this Android. More tomorrow.
    All right have a good evening.
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  4. #14



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    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    Might be of interest to you: Microsoft Re-Issues Windows 7 Updates Forcing Windows 10 Upgrade, Enabling Data Collection

    Microsoft has a goal of bringing Windows 10 on a total of 1 billion devices by 2017, and in order to achieve this, the company knows that most, if not all of those on Windows 7 need to upgrade as soon as possible.

    So to this, Microsoft offered some patches prompting users to upgrade and it turns out that the company recently re-released these to make sure that even if Windows 7 consumers blocked them, they still show up on their computers.

    Woody Leonhard of InfoWorld writes that a total of six patches have been re-released and these include not only updates that are supposed to encourage the upgrade to Windows 10 but also bulletins that were previously used to enable data collection on Windows 7.
    You should read the rest it list those updates too. I can only say 3 letters PUP
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  5. #15


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    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    That is interesting, thanks.

    Very difficult to know what to do for the best because there have been so many updates over the last few months that are/do seem W10 related. Ultimately, the descriptions accompanying the updates are open to interpretation making it difficult to know which are 'safe'.

    Back to the rebuild......
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  6. #16



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    Posts : 2,274
    Windows 10 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    This morning I have the dreaded 'Upgrade to W10' showing in Windows Update. I HAVE DONE NOTHING TO INVITE THIS. I never accepted the invitation for W10 and used Shawns reg tweak to remove the GWX icon a few months ago.

    Yesterday I did install KB3083711 (update to Windows Update) BUT NOT KB3035583 which was another W10 compatibility update. Has KB3083711 some other hidden function ?
    That update is just another update to give you Windows 10.
    They only haven't described it that way.

    I have noticed this description before in previously updates and those updates are for upgrading to Windows 10.
    This article describes an update that contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 8.1, Windows RT 8.1, or Windows Server 2012 R2.
    Same is for this description.
    This update performs diagnostics on the Windows systems that participate in the Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program. These diagnostics help determine whether compatibility issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed. This update will help Microsoft and its partners ensure compatibility for customers who want to install the latest Windows operating system.
    'improvements to Windows Update Client' just means some changes in the upgrade, in my words.
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  7. #17



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    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    Morning Martijn, the problem with some of these updates is, for those that do not want Windows 10 they are literally PUP's(more like UP unwanted "programs") And I'll bet that's why they stopped giving any real descriptions, to trick people into upgrading,.

    I have 10 on both machines and love it, but not everybody does, and when it's forced, they'll hate it.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 562
    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    Just an update on all this. The super clean rebuild hit a snag which I'll explain in a minute...

    Having hit this snag I thought long and hard about all this and felt that having to trawl manually through Windows Update catalogues was probably going to be a recipe for disaster long term. It would be unrealistic to think I could pick out all the applicable updates month after month for the next 'however many' years. How would I know which were applicable, it was bad enough having a trial run and just looking for security updates. Not workable long term......

    What I have done is restore Septembers month end backup. That still gave me the W10 upgrade update which suggests that the updates I mentioned in post #1 were not responsible. We are set to notify only remember. So a coincidence. W10 was being pushed anyway. I then ran Shawns latest reg fix to disable the upgrade.

    Upgrade to Windows 10 Update - Enable or Disable in Windows 7 or 8.1 - Windows 10 Forums

    At this point no files have been added to my system, my free space is back up at 55.4Gb (it was down at 53. something before) and I now have just KB3083711 showing. I have hidden KB3035583.

    And just what was the snag on the clean rebuild ? Well all was perfect until I imported my personal files. When my pictures were installed the live tile on the Weather App broke, not just the tile but the app itself. All you got was a blue screen and spinning globe. The live tile on 'Photos' wasn't responding correctly either. The finger of suspicion (unproven I must say) points possibly to the latest version of LibreOffice. There were compatibility problems some months ago with it breaking the 'kind map', which later versions corrected. Latest version is LibreOffice 5.

    So there we go. Back on track sort of. As long as MS don't start playing games again.
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    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    Click image for larger versionfor you!
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  10. #20


    Posts : 562
    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    Ta very much
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