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Force scan W10 readiness?

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    Force scan W10 readiness?


    Apologies if it`s been covered, I have searched. I WILL be doing the upgrade to W10 but not immediately, maybe within the next week. I had to buy a new printer as the last one died, messily, installed and working fine on W8.1. My question is, how can I force a rescan of pc for readiness?

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    Is the readiness scan actually any good in reality? I have read a lot of people saying their pc/ tablet is fine from the readiness scan but then have issues with the upgrade.

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    Harrisonburg, Va.
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    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by BstuSCO View Post
    Apologies if it`s been covered, I have searched. I WILL be doing the upgrade to W10 but not immediately, maybe within the next week. I had to buy a new printer as the last one died, messily, installed and working fine on W8.1. My question is, how can I force a rescan of pc for readiness?

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    Is the readiness scan actually any good in reality? I have read a lot of people saying their pc/ tablet is fine from the readiness scan but then have issues with the upgrade.
    When I installed the 10 TP it installed nicely.
    I got rid of it & reverted to 8.1 Pro.

    My computer was scanned for the free upgrade to the final version of 10 via the Windows 10 icon in the Notification Area.

    A picture-

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    I tried to install it via the ISO instead of waiting for the Windows Update of it.

    I ended up with a black screen & cursor.
    That ticked me off so I reverted to 8.1 Pro again & unreserved 10.
    Just to get rid of the notification in the Windows Update window.

    Why the 10 TP installed good & the final version from the ISO did not is moot.

    I think 10 is like 98.
    Full of bugs so far.
    Bill Gates was showing 98 to people, when it was launched, & it crashed in front of millions of people.

    Just my opinion, but I think waiting to install 10 till close to the deadline next year would be a good idea.

    Just my thoughts on the matter.
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    St. Augustine
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    windows 8.1 64, LT -Windows 10 Home 64


    Quote Originally Posted by BstuSCO View Post
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    Is the readiness scan actually any good in reality? I have read a lot of people saying their pc/ tablet is fine from the readiness scan but then have issues with the upgrade.
    I don't believe the Readiness Scan is very reliable and here's why.

    My 18 month old HP desktop was scanned 3-4 times prior to the 7/29 launch and this is the message I received.

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    Doing my own due diligence I discovered the following.

    1. My HP model had not been tested by HP
    2. Expect issues with my Bluetooth
    3. Expect issues with my Intel Graphics
    4. My cache SSD (Sandisk ReadyCache) not yet compatible

    Fortunately I found this out before I attempted the W10 conversion so needless to say I would not place much stock in the Microsoft Readiness Scan.

    Whenever you do decide to convert to W10 you should have a system image backup plan in place. Hope for the best but plan for the worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BstuSCO View Post
    Is the readiness scan actually any good in reality?
    In some cases -- NO -- it is a waste of time. Both Sony and Toshiba have told their customers to hold off on the upgrade. My HP laptop got a 100% passing score on the compatibility test -- but the upgraded left it in an unusable state! The HP forums are getting swamped daily by LOTS of folks in the same situation.

    Clearly, the Win10 compatibility checker needs to screen OUT more machines than it does -- and my guess, since MS is reveling in the latest count of folks running Win10, is that MS is going to do nothing to fix their upgrade tool.
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    Thanks for replies guys. I have read that it is recommended to upgrade then do the full install. whether or not there is any reasoning to this I`m unsure. Also do you think that more of the upgrade issues appear to be with laptops as opposed to desktops?

    The readiness scan when I actually spend more than a few seconds thinking about it, must be fairly useless, considering the variety of hardware/ software/ device combinations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BstuSCO View Post
    Thanks for replies guys. I have read that it is recommended to upgrade then do the full install. whether or not there is any reasoning to this I`m unsure.
    The reasoning is that a clean install after the upgrade gets rid of all the "cruft" that remained in place from the earlier OS. Some folks having problems after an upgrade have reported the problems going away after a subsequent clean install.

    Also do you think that more of the upgrade issues appear to be with laptops as opposed to desktops?
    Of course -- laptops use much more customized hardware and special drivers -- both of which present problems in any OS upgrade. The matter is made worse by the Win10 compatibility checker which, at least in the case of HP laptops, does a poor job of detecting hardware or driver problems.

    The readiness scan when I actually spend more than a few seconds thinking about it, must be fairly useless, considering the variety of hardware/ software/ device combinations.
    Unfortunately, given the growing numbers of folks reporting serious post-upgrade problems, this is turning out to be the case. My guess is that MS didn't put much effort into the compatibility checker because they're far more interested in patting themselves on the back for the 75 MILLION upgrades than caring about the thousands, or tens of thousands, of folks PCs that they corrupted in the process.
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    St. Augustine
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    windows 8.1 64, LT -Windows 10 Home 64


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    My guess is that MS didn't put much effort into the compatibility checker because they're far more interested in patting themselves on the back for the 75 MILLION upgrades than caring about the thousands, or tens of thousands, of folks PCs that they corrupted in the process.
    I find this whole W10 upgrade incredible. All one has to do is check out any computer forum and they are all flooded, bombarded with issues caused by the upgrade process and many very serious and we are not talking about a few systems here and there we are talking about tens if not hundreds of thousands and could be millions of adversely affected users. Even if just 1% of the 75M are having substantial problems that's 750K adversely affected users and I would bet that number is far greater than 1%. Yet all the while MS is slapping themselves on the back about the 75M W10 upgrades. What else would you expect from a FREE upgrade. This doesn't necessarily mean that W10 is bad but that the upgrade process is faulty but you just don't hear much about that. I can't wait to see where the number stand in 6 months. For anyone contemplating the W10 upgrade I suggest you check out the W10 Forum, HP Forum, Dell Forum as well as all the other related forums and look at all the issues related to the W10 upgrade and if you are not prepared to deal with any one of these issues, then you should hold off for a while at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gator2013 View Post
    ... Even if just 1% of the 75M are having substantial problems that's 750K adversely affected users and I would bet that number is far greater than 1%.
    You're probably right about the numbers. I keep my guesses low because every time I say anything negative about Win10 or MS, the MS Defenders come after me!
    What else would you expect from a FREE upgrade. This doesn't necessarily mean that W10 is bad but that the upgrade process is faulty but you just don't hear much about that.
    Agree. Am using Win10 and don't find it all that bad. Basically, a Win8.2, but not bad.
    I can't wait to see where the number stand in 6 months.
    Me, too ... but the media is not reporting these numbers, probably, because unlike with the number upgraded, there is no central location for them to go to get the numbers. You have to scour the different community and OEM forums.

    I regularly visit the HP Support forums, and every day, there's easily another hundred or more posts about problems with Win10 upgrade. Some OEMs have told folks to wait on the upgrade, but HP isn't saying anything publicly.

    I've heard rumours that SR1 is now expected out in October. If that happens, and if MS updates their ISOs to include that, that could be a good time to retry the updates -- using the new ISOs.
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    I think W10 is the future whether we like it or not?
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