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Windows Update Rant

  1. #1


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center

    Windows Update Rant


    Today I updated Opera.
    It just took a few minutes to download & install.
    It was a big file-

    Click image for larger version

    I went to Windows Update & tried to download 19 updates.
    My computer froze up.

    So I tried to download & install them 1 by 1.
    {I'm still trying to complete the process, by the way.}

    One update really has upset me.
    It was 111 KBs.
    It took about 20 minutes to download & another 10 to install.

    What's up with this Microsoft ?
    I really hope someone at Microsoft will join this forum & answer my question.

    If the biggest software company in the world can't do better, then something is very wrong.

    Rant's over.

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  2. #2


    Posts : 100
    Windows 8.1, 10, various Linux


    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    What's up with this Microsoft ?
    Before, customers could put off updates; now they are automatic.

    Server overload.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 562
    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    Not automatic in W8.1

    I've had so much time wasted by flaky and in some cases totally screwed up updates that I'm considering a new regime and that is to install them on the last day of the month, that gives time for any duds to be pulled.

    Maybe I'm an odd case, but I like to keep my system clean which means once updates are installed and I've rebooted a couple of times, and they have been left to do their thing for a while, then I run a full clean up and defrag routine. And its a real pain to have to keep installing updates that appear in dribs and drabs over the following days. I can guarantee that installing these will take a chunk of space, probably around 1Gb... yes it comes back over a few days... but things run soooo much smoother without all the constant maintenance that has to be done.

    Now I've added to the rant
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  4. #4


    Quote Originally Posted by brokensoftware View Post
    Before, customers could put off updates; now they are automatic.
    ONLY true with Windows 10. With earlier versions, you can still refuse updates indefinitely.
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  5. #5


    Posts : 562
    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86


    Thanks for the rep David... only way I can thank you here (pms turned off ? )
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  6. #6


    Posts : 100
    Windows 8.1, 10, various Linux


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    ONLY true with Windows 10. With earlier versions, you can still refuse updates indefinitely.
    The vast majority of Windows users, 10 and older, don't modify their systems' behavior. Windows 10 and, minimally, Windows 8-ish automatically install updates "now". As such, the OP's problem easily could be uSoft server overload for any set of updates that are available.

    Those of us who DO modify Windows behavior are WAY down in the noise level...

    ======

    A typical message about updates that we get now is Update is not allowed to download due to service regulation or download size limitation. meaning that uSoft's servers are busy.
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  7. #7


    From my recent experiences, users are lucky if they can undo the damage that these updates are causing. I work fixing computers on the side, and have never had any trouble before....before these Win 8 (and 8.1) updates.

    A common thread seems to be hard drive corruption. If you can boot into windows after the updates, it calls for a chkdsk. But once started, chkdsk never finishes, and then Windows never boots again. Ever.

    If and when you can get into advanced boot options, the "Refresh" feature does not work. The only successful fix I have found it to pull the hard drive to back up the data, then run a chkdsk remotely (which finds a multitude of errors). Then use the recovery options to do a clean install ("Reset") from a recovery disk.

    But another Win 8.1 machine I was working on did some automatic updates, and then crashed. Everything just froze, like a Win 98 computer. Only difference is that cold booting did not fix it. This was not such an easy fix (like reinstalling Windows is easy...). It's a gimmicky touch screen with no external access to the hard drive. (or battery, or RAM). Thank God I had backed up her files prior to the updates.

    Now the only option seems to be disabling updates altogether. Some might say that this is a security risk. But I'd much rather take my 10% chances with malware, than the 100% certainty of being ravaged by Microsoft.

    What on earth is going on over there in Redmond? Are they trying to go Chapter 11? (...I used to work at Circuit City... ;-)
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