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Nervous about attmpting Win. 8.1 upgrade

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    Nervous about attmpting Win. 8.1 upgrade


    Hi - currently Win 8 on a PC... I'm not saying i did the rght thing but I have updates set to 'notify me-then i'll choose what to install ''because when checking on a KB update i saw that it would allow Win.8.1 to be installed automatically. I have not visited the 'Store' recently to see if i'm eligible for the download to 8.1 but last trip to Store, months back, i was.
    question 1: must i have the pre-requisite KB's that Microsoft tried to install as 'updates' in place before updating from Store?;
    question 2: When will Microsoft stop supporting Win 8 totally (or in part)....
    question 3: should i do any pre-install 'maintenance' i.e. error ck/disk clean/defrag/a-v scan, etc before upgrading to Win.8.1
    I read of unsuccessful attempts on ''boards' to do the Upgrade to 8.1.and not being computer-savy ...i don't even know how to get to Administrator selection or get to the 'safe mode' ! - i am the owner/only user and listed as ''administrator'' when retailer did the set-up for me after i bought this compter .... if that means anything insofar as the upgrading to 8.1. bottom line - i dread doing this - LOL
    thanks in advance for any help.... Edythe

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    i am the owner/only user and listed as ''administrator''
    Right, but you're not the actual Administrator -- as that is a hidden account; instead, you're a general user with some elevated rights.

    Best thing you can do right now is make an image backup of what you have to an external drive or large USB stick. Recommend using Macrium Reflect and, after you have made the backup, create the Boot CD/USB -- as you would need that to restore from the backup, if that becomes necessary.
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    My understanding is the default account is an administrator, unless you set it as Standard. Its a member of that group. It's just subject to UAC restrictions. The full hidden system administrator account isn't subject to any UAC restrictions. I'm shown as Administrator on my Windows 8 PC's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    i am the owner/only user and listed as ''administrator''
    Right, but you're not the actual Administrator -- as that is a hidden account; instead, you're a general user with some elevated rights.

    Best thing you can do right now is make an image backup of what you have to an external drive or large USB stick. Recommend using Macrium Reflect and, after you have made the backup, create the Boot CD/USB -- as you would need that to restore from the backup, if that becomes necessary.
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    I have the USB 'stick' for backup that i made when i bought the computer...my main concern since i don't have things i can't life without are the other questions listed in O.P. above .. thanks anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    My understanding is the default account is an administrator, unless you set it as Standard. Its a member of that group. It's just subject to UAC restrictions. The full hidden system administrator account isn't subject to any UAC restrictions. I'm shown as Administrator on my Windows 8 PC's.
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    I'm fine insofar as 'administrator' situations - i wanted to know answers to what i originally posted insofar as 'what' to do prior to updating to 8.1 thanks anyway
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    windows 8.1 Update 1 Pro 64bit


    Question 1: All Windows Updates must be installed before installing Windows 8.1

    Question 2: HP Support Worldwide

    Question 3: No pre-install maintenance required unless you have a problem.

    The above are normal situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuccii View Post
    Question 1: All Windows Updates must be installed before installing Windows 8.1

    Question 2: HP Support Worldwide

    Question 3: No pre-install maintenance required unless you have a problem.

    The above are normal situations.
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    THANKS so much for replying !!!! how do i get the required updates prior to trying to install/update to 8.1? right now i'm set to ...''download but let me choose which updates to install''....On one group of updates i had gotten KB2973544 offered which would have allowed Windows to auto -install 8.1 without informing me...so i never installed that one ...Also i put it and some others under ''hidden' but now when i went to retrieve them, they're gone from the 'hidden' area....so, i don't know besides 'that' one, which others i need. When i get the reminder 'banner' to install 8.1 -if i click o.k. or even go to the Store if im missing any pre-requisite updates inorder to load 8.1 will they be offered? or will i just get a 'rejection' on the upgrade to 8.1 ?... i have read unhappy people with installations not working after updating to 8.1 so i imagine the worst happening ! LOL - if 'it's' going to happen, it will happen to me ! i know nothing about computers so it doesn't take much to rattle me ! thanks again ! Edythe
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    windows 8.1 Update 1 Pro 64bit


    How many updates are there to install?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuccii View Post
    How many updates are there to install?
    don't know !! found article below based on current 'hidden' update that i havaen't installed which is KB3008273 -below is it's descriptionb 3008273 under ''hidden' updates - didn't install it - it allows Win. 8..1 to be installed automaticallly as long as i have 2871389 installed - (below is what i'm copying from ) ...but i can't find 2871389 as installed on my computer but it's also not sitting under 'hidden' (updates)
    This article describes an update that enables Windows RT to update to Windows RT 8.1, and that enables Window 8 to update to Windows 8.1. See the
    prerequisites before you install the update.If you have Automatic Updates enabled on a computer that has update 2871389 installed, this update enables an automatic Windows 8.1 upgrade.
    Trust me - i haven't a clue as what i'm doing because i can't find the required 2871389 (above) installed or what i should 'do' to update to 8.1 ...maybe if i click on the next 'banner pop-up' & click install i will get the prerequisites ? i'm at a loss ...





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    windows 8.1 Update 1 Pro 64bit


    I am not talking about hidden updates. When you go to Windows Update in the Control Panel and then Check for updates, how many are there?
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