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Nervous about attmpting Win. 8.1 upgrade

  1. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If it makes you that nervous just uninstall your third party anti-virus, upgrade, then install it again. Windows Defender should become active when you uninstall your third party AV.
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    you think i'm nervous now - just wait until i'd try to uninstall and reinstall my a/v program ! lol
    Anyway, in my thinking (not always logical) if Defender would then activate after said 'uninstall' of McAfee, wouldn't i just be back to square-'one' I.E. with an 'active' A/V program in place? ...i hope im not totally confusing you ...

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  2. #32


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Quote Originally Posted by edythe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If it makes you that nervous just uninstall your third party anti-virus, upgrade, then install it again. Windows Defender should become active when you uninstall your third party AV.
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    you think i'm nervous now - just wait until i'd try to uninstall and reinstall my a/v program ! lol
    Anyway, in my thinking (not always logical) if Defender would then activate after said 'uninstall' of McAfee, wouldn't i just be back to square-'one' I.E. with an 'active' A/V program in place? ...i hope im not totally confusing you ...
    Yes, you'll be back to using the built in Microsoft Antivirus > Defender. You could just try turning off McAffee. Assuming the option you click actually turns it "all" off.
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  3. #33


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by edythe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If it makes you that nervous just uninstall your third party anti-virus, upgrade, then install it again. Windows Defender should become active when you uninstall your third party AV.
    -------------------------------------------
    you think i'm nervous now - just wait until i'd try to uninstall and reinstall my a/v program ! lol
    Anyway, in my thinking (not always logical) if Defender would then activate after said 'uninstall' of McAfee, wouldn't i just be back to square-'one' I.E. with an 'active' A/V program in place? ...i hope im not totally confusing you ...
    Yes, you'll be back to using the built in Microsoft Antivirus > Defender. You could just try turning off McAffee. Assuming the option you click actually turns it "all" off.
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    did 'chat' with McAfee -i know where to go for a/v and firewall within the program interface - it's clearly marked ''turn off'' - 'but' tech did state even 'turned-off' i still am afforded 'protection' (i questioned vulnerability w/o their program ...so your point is well taken - 'what' constitute and to 'what' degree does ''turned-off' encompass... oh well - can't say i don't ask tons of questions ! many thanks again - edythe
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  4. #34


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    I don't know about McAfee, but some of those suits (cough Norton cough) are so entrailed into Windows that even when you uninstall them, it's not all removed. And turning them off doesn't always kill everything. I run with just Defender on all my PC's. Have you created your recovery media? The upgrade to 8.1 may break the factory recovery utility.
    Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8
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  5. #35


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I don't know about McAfee, but some of those suits (cough Norton cough) are so entrailed into Windows that even when you uninstall them, it's not all removed. And turning them off doesn't always kill everything. I run with just Defender on all my PC's. Have you created your recovery media? The upgrade to 8.1 may break the factory recovery utility.
    Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8
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    don't know anything about McAfee but remember uninstalling was supposed to be a 'bear' - this Lenovo came with win/8/ McAfee so i didn't even bother transferring Norton 'bbbeeeecause''' i was too skittish to try and transfer into this new machine -i took the coward's way out and just stayed with McAffee .....but i 'hear ya' about the 'suits' !!! I do find McAfee customer service alert & alive - And yes, i created the usb-flash drive when i brought home this little darling with Win 8. (Lenovo)
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  6. #36


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    Sooner or latter you'll have to byte the bullet and do it. Or do a clean install. My factory OEM installs are long gone on our two laptops. As a backup, backup, you may want to download install media from here, Create installation media for Windows 8.1 - Windows Help, and make a bootable thumb drive. Especially if you only have the one PC.
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  7. #37


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Sooner or latter you'll have to byte the bullet and do it. Or do a clean install. My factory OEM installs are long gone on our two laptops. As a backup, backup, you may want to download install media from here, Create installation media for Windows 8.1 - Windows Help, and make a bootable thumb drive. Especially if you only have the one PC.
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    ok have to 'plead' stupidity here - are you saying once i do the 8.1 update and it's working (oh please !) that i could do a usb for that as i did when i first got this puter with 8 on it ?
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  8. #38


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    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    You could try

    Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download

    Standard version.
    I use it.
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  9. #39


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Quote Originally Posted by edythe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Sooner or latter you'll have to byte the bullet and do it. Or do a clean install. My factory OEM installs are long gone on our two laptops. As a backup, backup, you may want to download install media from here, Create installation media for Windows 8.1 - Windows Help, and make a bootable thumb drive. Especially if you only have the one PC.
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    ok have to 'plead' stupidity here - are you saying once i do the 8.1 update and it's working (oh please !) that i could do a usb for that as i did when i first got this puter with 8 on it ?
    Yes and no. The one you did when you got the PC is likely Recovery media. It doesn't install Windows, it just restores an image. An image of the factory install. It restores it to the OOBE. Out Of the Box Experience. When you do the recovery your PC will be just like it was the first time you turned it on. The install media I linked to will let you do a clean install. You will be installing Windows like you would if you bought a Windows 8.1 DVD. If your upgrade fails, and your recovery media doesn't work for some reason. You could start over with a clean install. That Windows 8.1 install media will read and use OEM keys, even 8.0 keys. It's just a backup to your recovery media. Windows 8.1 will let you make a recovery thumb drive but the option to copy the factory recovery partition will be grayed out. That's what I've seen posted anyway. I have no way to check it myself at this time. It makes sense because the factory recovery partition will be for 8.0, not 8.1.
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  10. #40


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Anyway, I'm packing it in for tonight. My aching back is telling me its time to take a break and relax a bit. I'll check back in the morning to see what's up.
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