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Windows 8 updates taking up too much disk space

  1. #11


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    You're welcome

    I found that installing W8.1 onto the full 300gb unallocated drive wouldn't allow me to shrink down as much as I wanted afterwards. Apparently there are unmovable files created during the install and the physical location of these was the limiting factor. I was advised to do a disk clean and defrag and that that might have resolved the issue but I never got to try that. I just redid it from the start. Also, installing onto unallocated space (rather than an existing clean but formatted partition) allows the Windows installer to create the small system reserved partition which otherwise doesn't seem to occur.

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  2. #12


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    1. There is a folder under: C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download where all Windows updates files were downloaded and installed. If you open this folder, you'll see a lot of files and folders.
      Make sure that Windows Updates is not running then go ahead and delete all the files/folders.
      Here's mine looks like after cleanup this folder:

      Click image for larger version
    2. As said above. During the updates, multiple restore points were created so Windows can restore to the earlier state if an updates fails then it will roll back.
      Win+X -> System -> System Protection ->Configure then click on Delete. Click OK to go back to the previous screen then Create a new restore point by clicking on Create button.
    3. Download: TFC Temporary file removal tool and right click to run as Admin. This program will clean up all the temp files. During execution, it also kills some of the processes in order to clean up the temp files occupied by those processes. When finished, just sign out then sign back in.
    4. Make sure you empty the Recycle Bin, otherwise you will not see any changes.


    In addition, you can download a free version of WinDirStat - Windows Directory Statistics . This program will give you a graphical display of disk storage occupied by folders so you can identify where all the spaces go.

    Hope this help !!!
    Last edited by topgundcp; 15 Jul 2014 at 07:51.
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  3. #13


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    270mb in my folder on my test Enterprise x86 install. I'll check the Dell later for interest.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 97
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    You're welcome

    I found that installing W8.1 onto the full 300gb unallocated drive wouldn't allow me to shrink down as much as I wanted afterwards. Apparently there are unmovable files created during the install and the physical location of these was the limiting factor. I was advised to do a disk clean and defrag and that that might have resolved the issue but I never got to try that. I just redid it from the start. Also, installing onto unallocated space (rather than an existing clean but formatted partition) allows the Windows installer to create the small system reserved partition which otherwise doesn't seem to occur.
    Hi again, I just checked to see how far I could shrink my 200GB C: drive and could only go down to 107GB due to the unmovable files you mention.
    I am definitely going to try the smaller partition route to installing Windows 8 and then expanding it. I have a backup image I can use to restore everything quickly if I don't like it.

    Thanks again

    Jan
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  5. #15


    Posts : 97
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    1. There is a folder under: C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download where all Windows updates files were downloaded and installed. If you open this folder, you'll see a lot of files and folders.
      Make sure that Windows Updates is not running then go ahead and delete all the files/folders.
      Here's mine looks like after cleanup this folder:

      Click image for larger version
    2. As said above. During the updates, multiple restore points were created so Windows can restore to the earlier state if an updates fails then it will roll back.
      Win+X -> System -> System Protection ->Configure then click on Delete. Click OK to go back to the previous screen then Create a new restore point by clicking on Create button.
    3. Download: TFC Temporary file removal tool and right click to run as Admin. This program will clean up all the temp files. During execution, it also kills some of the processes in order to clean up the temp files occupied by those processes. When finished, just sign out then sign back in.
    4. Make sure you empty the Recycle Bin, otherwise you will not see any changes.


    In addition, you can download a free version of WinDirStat - Windows Directory Statistics . This program will give you a graphical display of disk storage occupied by folders so you can identify where all the spaces go.

    Hope this help !!!
    Hi topgundcp, Thanks for your very interesting post...
    Before I try out the suggestions made by Mooly I will check out the areas you mention and see what is there...though I have already run Disk Cleanup which should have removed unnecessary files.
    Will get back with what I find.

    Thanks

    Jan
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  6. #16


    Posts : 97
    Windows 8.1


    Hi topgundcp, I just followed your suggestions about deleting Windows Updates and found I had 185 folders containing 95000 + files still on my system...and this is after I spent 3 hours yesterday waiting for Windows Disk Cleanup to do its thing.
    I downloaded TFC and it cleared out 1.582.00mb of tempory files.
    All this has reclaimed another 5GB of space on my C: drive....Very impressive.


    Checked as far as I can to see that all is working as it should and found nothing unexpected but will give it more time to see if anything crops up.


    Looks like a great solution you found for me topgundcp....Thanks

    Jan
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  7. #17


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    Apparently disk cleanup will not delete these files. FYI, I have been doing this with Vista, Win 7 and Win 8 and nothing was affected except you'd have a cleaner system. Since you have a lot of updates (110 ? wow), you must have an earlier DVD/ISO version of Windows 8, normally MS will reproduce the DVD/ISO bi-weekly or monthly to include all the latest updates.

    Step 2 in my previous post will also free up some more space, you don't need all the restore points, delete them all except the most recent one then create another one to reflect your current system state.
    Hi again, I just checked to see how far I could shrink my 200GB C: drive and could only go down to 107GB due to the unmovable files you mention.
    I am definitely going to try the smaller partition route to installing Windows 8 and then expanding it. I have a backup image I can use to restore everything quickly if I don't like it.
    I might have been the one who recomended to Mooly on how to shrink the partition couple of weeks ago. You should not have to re-install it.
    1. Make sure your Windows is good and healthy, open the elevated command prompt and run 2 commands as shown below:
      - dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
      - sfc /scannow
    2. Temporarily set to use no pagefile.sys
    3. Temporarily Disable Hibernation
    4. Delete All restore points
    5. Reboot your PC then run defrag to consolidate all the free space
    6. Open Disk Management then shrink.


    NOTE: to get a nice round number, for example: if you want your partition to be exactly 100GB, then set the number to be:
    100x1024=102,400
    Last edited by topgundcp; 15 Jul 2014 at 10:12.
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  8. #18


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    You are quite welcome.

    I followed your instruction regarding deleting and re-creating restore points and noticed that it was removing restore points that must be hidden by the system as I had not yet created any myself and System Restore showed that there were none before I started.
    System restore points are stored under a hidden folder C:\System Volume Information . If you turn on to show "Hidden Files" & Turn off "Hide hidden system files" from the Folder Options then you'll see the folder. However, that's all you can see, Windows will not allow you to open the folder.
    Last edited by topgundcp; 15 Jul 2014 at 13:34.
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  9. #19


    Posts : 97
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    Apparently disk cleanup will not delete these files. FYI, I have been doing this with Vista, Win 7 and Win 8 and nothing was affected except you'd have a cleaner system. Since you have a lot of updates (110 ? wow), you must have an earlier DVD/ISO version of Windows 8, normally MS will reproduce the DVD/ISO bi-weekly or monthly to include all the latest updates.

    Step 2 in my previous post will also free up some more space, you don't need all the restore points, delete them all except the most recent one then create another one to reflect your current system state.
    Hi again, I just checked to see how far I could shrink my 200GB C: drive and could only go down to 107GB due to the unmovable files you mention.
    I am definitely going to try the smaller partition route to installing Windows 8 and then expanding it. I have a backup image I can use to restore everything quickly if I don't like it.
    I might have been the one who recomended to Mooly on how to shrink the partition couple of weeks ago. You should not have to re-install it.
    1. Make sure your Windows is good and healthy, open the elevated command prompt and run 2 commands as shown below:
      - dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
      - sfc /scannow
    2. Temporarily set to use no pagefile.sys
    3. Temporarily Disable Hibernation
    4. Delete All restore points
    5. Reboot your PC then run defrag to consolidate all the free space
    6. Open Disk Management then shrink.


    NOTE: to get a nice round number, for example: if you want your partition to be exactly 100GB, then set the number to be:
    100x1024=102,400
    It is reassuring to know that you have not experienced any problems...

    I have looked all over my installation and can't find anything wrong...I notice lot of files and folders have gone and my PC is a lot snappier to load new programs etc.

    No idea how old the disk is and it does not say on the disk or the cover.

    I followed your instruction regarding deleting and re-creating restore points and noticed that it was removing restore points that must be hidden by the system as I had not yet created any myself and System Restore showed that there were none before I started.

    All is good so far...I am very grateful for your help...

    Jan

    PS. Just spotted your update...I am so happy with how well my PC is running now that I am putting Mooly's suggestion on hold for now. I will try it next time but for now I am very happy and think I should leave well alone and not push my luck any further.

    Thanks

    Jan
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  10. #20


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    270mb in my folder on my test Enterprise x86 install. I'll check the Dell later for interest.
    Just under 14mb on the Dell, little more than a couple of photos.

    Jan... that's great to hear that you have got it all sorted.
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