How are updates for Flash player and PDF reader delivered

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Seeing as W8.1 has "Flash Player" and a PDF reader as part of the OS I wondered how updates for these are delivered. Are they delivered via the normal Windows Update channel or are they as before (in W7/Vista) where the application/s are non OS related and updates are via the appropriate companies own update system ?
 

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That's interesting. The Flash Player page says that it is pre-installed with W8. I had a look in "control panel" and found there is the normal Flash Player "icon" installed, however opening that and looking at the advanced tab shows the update settings to be greyed out and set by default to "notify me". So it seems that it is Windows Update dependent.
 

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So it seems that it is Windows Update dependent.
True for IE in the form of KB######. For other browsers, you need to download the software and install it.
 

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I think Flash for Internet Explorer are through Windows Update.

Otherwise---

Adobe - Test Adobe Shockwave Player

Hello David,
The link you gave is for the Shockwave Player, not for the flash player. The link below is to test your Flash Player: Adobe Find Flash version

Here's some info about Flash Player and Shockwave: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/769607

For most of us, we only need Flash Player.

The link was for Shockwave & Flash Player---

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Thanks Folks. That is was WU dependent was what I was after confirming.

I'm used to running Vista and W7 with Windows set to notify only, however that setting doesn't seem to play nicely with W8.1 in that Defender then will not automatically update (unlike the standard Security Essentials in W7).
 

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You are right, Sorry I missed that.
 

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IE: Updated via Windows Update
Chrome: Updated via Chrome Updates
Firefox: Updated manually or via Flash Player Auto Update
Acrobat Reader: Updated manually or via Acrobat Auto Update
 

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Thanks :)
 

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Thanks Folks. That is was WU dependent was what I was after confirming.

I'm used to running Vista and W7 with Windows set to notify only, however that setting doesn't seem to play nicely with W8.1 in that Defender then will not automatically update (unlike the standard Security Essentials in W7).

You can create a scheduled task to update Windows Defender definition updates.
That way you can have all other updates set to notify only, and the definition updates get installed automatically.
 

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Acrobat Reader: Updated manually or via Acrobat Auto Update
How do you set up auto update for Reader or even check for updates manually? In Win 7 it is its own program and it is easy enough to access those features but I can't figure it out in Win 8.1.

I don't see any way to get to those features in Reader in 8.1.
 

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Acrobat Reader: Updated manually or via Acrobat Auto Update
How do you set up auto update for Reader or even check for updates manually? In Win 7 it is its own program and it is easy enough to access those features but I can't figure it out in Win 8.1.

I don't see any way to get to those features in Reader in 8.1.

Like in the pictures---


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Or manually---

Screenshot_185.jpg
 

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Like in the pictures---View attachment 46698

Or manually---

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What you show appears to be the Adobe Reader program separately installed. I am asking about (as I believe was the OP) the Reader app that comes installed in Windows 8 (and 8.1).

I see no way to access those features which you show. I can easily find those features in the program on my Win 7 machine, since the program was installed. Not in the Reader app.
 

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Sorry. :(

New pictures :) ---

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Gratitude! This app thing is taking some getting used to.
 

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Glad I could help. :)
Check your reps. +10
 

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Thanks Folks. That is was WU dependent was what I was after confirming.

I'm used to running Vista and W7 with Windows set to notify only, however that setting doesn't seem to play nicely with W8.1 in that Defender then will not automatically update (unlike the standard Security Essentials in W7).

You can create a scheduled task to update Windows Defender definition updates.
That way you can have all other updates set to notify only, and the definition updates get installed automatically.

That is something I shall definitely look into. I didn't realise I could do that. Thanks.
 

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Thanks Folks. That is was WU dependent was what I was after confirming.

I'm used to running Vista and W7 with Windows set to notify only, however that setting doesn't seem to play nicely with W8.1 in that Defender then will not automatically update (unlike the standard Security Essentials in W7).

You can create a scheduled task to update Windows Defender definition updates.
That way you can have all other updates set to notify only, and the definition updates get installed automatically.

That is something I shall definitely look into. I didn't realise I could do that. Thanks.

And look into how to do it I did :thumbsup: and I now have Defender updating at every boot but with a 15 minute delay which seemed a sensible value for things to settle down first.

Thanks David.
 

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