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failure configuring windows updates. reverting changes!

  1. #31


    Posts : 1
    Windows 8.0


    I can confirm this is not a fix (turning off secure boot)

    I have a second PC on which I test stuff and use for backups occasionally. I turned it on today, for the first time since October and got the reboot update loop after updating. Tried the previous post fix and because it is an older (about 6 years) PC the secure boot option is not available in BIOS ie. it is not a UEFI bios. I left it running and rebooting for a couple of hours until it finally started. I turned off the AV realtime monitoring and searched for updates. There were 50 of them so I selected just 10 system updates and installed them. It decided to install all 50 regadless. Microsoft I am not at all impressed by this. I am still waiting for the reboot fail loop and will report back later. Like a previous poster I repair PC's a lot - but not as much as him

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  2. #32


    Posts : 12
    ALL OF THEM!


    Well now I will say that all the machines I am experienceing this on are all fairly modern W8 OEM Machines with a W8 factory recovery partition & UEFI BIOS. And pretty much all have Secure Boot Option in the BIOS. So If y0u have no option at all in the MB relating to Secure Boot on/off and do experience the initial problem there is no way to even try this solution. However, so far every machine I have turned S.B. off in I have been able to do all updates at once and have not experienced the Issue as of late. So I am still seeing promise with the discovery of this possible workaround on the Bulk of the W8 PC's I typically get in the door to do.. Sorry your situation did not work on a pre-UEFI MB. I'd dare a guess yours did not come out origionally with W8 on it or is a older home build. You might want to test your RAM if you always fail out of, or can never complete, the update process on this computer. I do eventually get thru this issue on them all.... even before finding out about this fix.
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  3. #33


    Posts : 12
    ALL OF THEM!

    Solved!


    My Final comments on this Issue.

    For my purposes. I am reporting this problem solved. Since discovering the Secure Boot Trick I have Re-Loaded approx. 50 Windows 8 OEM PC's. None of them have "Reverted Changes" During the Update Process with S.B. turned off. This exact Issue/Fix does not apply to Very Old Machines where they have been upgraded to 8 as they do not have UEFI BIOS's w/ Secure Boot Technology & would not be running GPT Partitioning scheme. For the rest that do this solution works! As a matter of technique I Make it a Point to turn off S.B. as soon as I finish running the Factory Recovery Partition. My only problem is always remembering to turn it back on after everything is done at the end of the day. Tie a string around your finger.

    Admin your welcome to mark this Thread SOLVED!
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  4. #34

    Actually NOT Solved...


    Quote Originally Posted by sledgebeast View Post
    My Final comments on this Issue.

    For my purposes. I am reporting this problem solved. Since discovering the Secure Boot Trick I have Re-Loaded approx. 50 Windows 8 OEM PC's. None of them have "Reverted Changes" During the Update Process with S.B. turned off. This exact Issue/Fix does not apply to Very Old Machines where they have been upgraded to 8 as they do not have UEFI BIOS's w/ Secure Boot Technology & would not be running GPT Partitioning scheme. For the rest that do this solution works! As a matter of technique I Make it a Point to turn off S.B. as soon as I finish running the Factory Recovery Partition. My only problem is always remembering to turn it back on after everything is done at the end of the day. Tie a string around your finger.

    Admin your welcome to mark this Thread SOLVED!
    Sorry mate, but you are WRONG. Just because you have solved the issue for your circumstances does not mean it has been solved. You seem to have a rather high opinion of yourself, and yet it took you more than a year to solve your own issues according to your own testimony.

    I have recently encountered a desktop with W8.1 and a UEFI BIOS and switching off Secure Boot does not do a damn thing to fix the problem.

    On this particular PC I have narrowed the cause down to a particular update dated April 2014 - KB2919355. This is a prerequisite for every update since that time. Once you get this update installed things should start to become smoother, but again this is only in this specific case. I NOT am claiming the issue is solved for everyone else here, as my ego is not that inflated.

    There are various issues with this update. Here are Microsoft's own suggestions:- Install the Windows 8.1 Update (KB 2919355) - Windows Help

    If none of the above applies, then you can try Microsoft's Update Troubleshooter:- Fix Windows Update Error messages and other Windows Update issues

    If all else fails, then see if any of these issues apply:- Troubleshoot problems with installing updates - Windows Help
    Last edited by tulip; 17 Jun 2015 at 04:59. Reason: Insert Title
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  5. #35


    Posts : 12
    ALL OF THEM!


    I am not coming from a position of just one computer that I have had this problem with. In Running a computer repair business I have now reloaded well over a hundred towers that have been solved by turning off Secure Boot. So I stand by my guns. You may have experienced a similar problem that doesn't fit the solution provided here, but that's just the Junk we are forced to deal with by Microsoft. Turning off secure boot does help and has helped with the problem in this thread And has now helped countless times. I can appreciate the fact that it did not help in your case. And No not all Reversions are apparently caused by Secure Boot. But the Bulk of them that occur during a clean reload are. As long as you don't have bad ram or the like. One other thing to note some machines like HP resist having secure boot disabled if you didn't enter the code after reboot it voids your change in the BIOS.
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  6. #36


    Posts : 12
    ALL OF THEM!

    To Put it Another Way.


    Let me put this another way. In 2014 our computer store invoiced over 200 W8 Factory Wipe'n'Reloads. Over 90 percent of those had the Reverting Changes during the clean OS update phase. We had not started experiencing this Issue till close to the end of the First Quarter(MidSpring) of that year. I too suspected a BS update put out by MS to be the culprit. At the time We found ways of minimizing the occurance as I mentioned way back in this thread. Now, this half-year of 2015 since discovering the link between failing the update stage/Reverting changes & Temporary Disabling Secure Boot in the BIOS, we have invoiced over a 100 W8 RLd's... And experience only about 2% that Revert. Call it ego inflated or Wrong but for our retail computer store & repair shop's purposes we do in fact consider it solved. Barring a few unstable PC's w/ Quirky configurations, we no longer experience this ISSUE!
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  7. #37


    Posts : 1
    Windows 8

    Telephone support


    Quote Originally Posted by sledgebeast View Post
    Let me put this another way. In 2014 our computer store invoiced over 200 W8 Factory Wipe'n'Reloads. Over 90 percent of those had the Reverting Changes during the clean OS update phase. We had not started experiencing this Issue till close to the end of the First Quarter(MidSpring) of that year. I too suspected a BS update put out by MS to be the culprit. At the time We found ways of minimizing the occurance as I mentioned way back in this thread. Now, this half-year of 2015 since discovering the link between failing the update stage/Reverting changes & Temporary Disabling Secure Boot in the BIOS, we have invoiced over a 100 W8 RLd's... And experience only about 2% that Revert. Call it ego inflated or Wrong but for our retail computer store & repair shop's purposes we do in fact consider it solved. Barring a few unstable PC's w/ Quirky configurations, we no longer experience this ISSUE!
    can you provide phone support on this?
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  8. #38


    Posts : 1
    9.0 beta on ipad. windows 8 pc


    My computer won't even load now it keeps spinning around saying failure configuration window updates. Ive tried everything nothing works it won't even let me do a system recovery either.
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  9. #39


    Posts : 4
    windows 8

    newbie has question about this "secure boot" thing


    Is this something you can only do after a new or re install? Or can I get into bios and change the setting when this message finally goes away? If so, How do I get there?
    QUOTE=sledgebeast;485036]Well now I will say that all the machines I am experienceing this on are all fairly modern W8 OEM Machines with a W8 factory recovery partition & UEFI BIOS. And pretty much all have Secure Boot Option in the BIOS. So If y0u have no option at all in the MB relating to Secure Boot on/off and do experience the initial problem there is no way to even try this solution. However, so far every machine I have turned S.B. off in I have been able to do all updates at once and have not experienced the Issue as of late. So I am still seeing promise with the discovery of this possible workaround on the Bulk of the W8 PC's I typically get in the door to do.. Sorry your situation did not work on a pre-UEFI MB. I'd dare a guess yours did not come out origionally with W8 on it or is a older home build. You might want to test your RAM if you always fail out of, or can never complete, the update process on this computer. I do eventually get thru this issue on them all.... even before finding out about this fix.[/QUOTE]
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  10. #40


    Posts : 4
    windows 8

    Is there any new info on this reverting changes message?


    I am waiting for the change to revert. And waiting, but the computer was super slow to begin with, so I have faith it eventually will finish. ? I hope. So my question is when it does, if there is no new info on how to fix this, should I try secure boot or installing only a few at a time or what? Is there a way to try to change to secure boot setting in bios if you are not doing a new install or re install? Assume I know nothing about computers in your reply Please. Or is there a new fix yet? Please help, I have to get this thing up and running for my daughter who just went back to school. Thank you.
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