Will 8.1 update 1 be an optional update?

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I just successfully upgraded my mom's XP machine to Win 8.1 cause of Microsoft's end-of-support for the old OS. It took the best part of a day backing up her files, installing and activating and then setting up new software on the new OS. It's not something I'd want to do again in a hurry and I'm a little concerned about this new update which I've just heard about. All this business of upgrading and updating is time consuming and stressful to me! I've set her updates to the recommended automatic setting, so what I want to know is: Will the update hijack her machine and install itself without warning once it becomes available or will it be an optional one that we can initiate ourselves? I'd rather it'd be the latter to be honest. She works from her home on her PC so any surprise down time while the patch installs is not desirable. The original 8 to 8.1 update on my own PC , took ages with several reboots so I'm kind of apprehensive about this new one.
 

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Thanks for the quick reply, Brink. That's good to know. The 8 to 8.1 update was like a whole re-install whereas this one I guess will be more like a service pack that we can install at our leisure, am I right? It's just that when I saw posts about leaked ISOs etc., I thought it was going to be a major overhaul like the previous one and that I was going to have my work cut out. Phew!
 

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I've had the 8.1 Update 1 RTM on both my pc's for almost 2 weeks now. Microsoft had the downloads on their site for about 2 hours and then pulled it. I got it on my desktop pc and notebook in time, as I saved the download. Both are running great. Also, just so you know, open the Windows Store and let it run the check for updates. Between Monday & today all Microsoft preinstalled app's got updates. Probably due to the fact that Build started today.
 

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Thanks for the quick reply, Brink. That's good to know. The 8 to 8.1 update was like a whole re-install whereas this one I guess will be more like a service pack that we can install at our leisure, am I right? It's just that when I saw posts about leaked ISOs etc., I thought it was going to be a major overhaul like the previous one and that I was going to have my work cut out. Phew!

Nope, no major overhaul this time thank goodness.

It's more of a feature pack than service pack, but yeah it's the same procedure.

I wouldn't waste my time with any questionable leaks when the official "Windows 8.1 Update" will be released on the 8th of this month..
 

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Since your Mom's PC is set for Automatic Updates it will install them when they come out on April 8. You may want to set it to Let me Choose option so you can do them when you are ready.

Jim :cool:
 

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Since your Mom's PC is set for Automatic Updates it will install them when they come out on April 8. You may want to set it to Let me Choose option so you can do them when you are ready.

Jim :cool:

Damn, I was hoping 'twas going to be an optional update like win 7 service pack 1. I don't like the thought of my mom going to work on her newly re-vamped pc only to have it paralyzed for an hour or more while the update installs automatically. If you're right, I'd want to call over in the mean time and set her updates to the 'let me choose....' setting so I can oversee it's installation and ensure it goes smoothly. I feel kinda responsible for her PC maintenance now since it was me who put the new OS there.


update:

Brink said:
It's more of a feature pack than service pack, but yeah it's the same procedure.


I'm gonna take his word on this. If it's like a service pack then it'll be optional. So, no panic.
 
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As Justin Wilson said. I am a Safety man, I wear a belt and suspenders. I always have mine set to Let me Choose.

Jim :cool:
 

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Just out from MS

Windows RT 8.1, Windows 8.1, and Windows Server 2012 R2 Update April, 2014

This update is provided as an important update.
If you select the Install updates automatically (recommended) Windows Update setting, this update is installed automatically.

Important All future security and nonsecurity updates for Windows RT 8.1, Windows 8.1, and Windows Server 2012 R2 require this update to be installed. We recommend that you install this update on your Windows RT 8.1, Windows 8.1, or Windows Server 2012 R2-based computer in order to receive continued future updates.


Jim :cool:
 

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Thanks for the quick reply, Brink. That's good to know. The 8 to 8.1 update was like a whole re-install whereas this one I guess will be more like a service pack that we can install at our leisure, am I right? It's just that when I saw posts about leaked ISOs etc., I thought it was going to be a major overhaul like the previous one and that I was going to have my work cut out. Phew!

For the average PC user Update 1 will come via Windows update. As Brink mentioned its more of a feature pack. If your an IT Pro for a big organization though you'll want more than that. That's why Microsoft released updated ISO's on TechNet and MSDN. It lets the IT guy do a clean install with update one already included. There is also a stand alone update only download available on TechNet and MSDN. Some members have TechNet and MSDN subscriptions and have already downloaded the update and the new ISO. That's why some are talking about ISO's, a lot of people want them but not everybody can get them. Not easily anyway.
 

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Yeah, I guess it's gonna come automatically then (for those with auto-updates fully turned on). I read somewhere that it's a ~300MB package that will possibly take up to 45 minutes to install in the background. I also read that the changes it makes aren't that profound - boot straight to desktop on non-touch machines, a new power button in the metro UI (handy) and a few other tweaks involving metro apps and metro mouse-keyboard handling/user-friendliness.

...some are talking about ISO's, a lot of people want them but not everybody can get them. Not easily anyway.
I can see how it would be handy to have the updated ISO or the standalone update for the purposes of a clean offline install. I guess any copy of Win 8.1 that Microsoft sells after 08/04/2014 will have it included anyway.
 

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Yeah, I guess it's gonna come automatically then (for those with auto-updates fully turned on). I read somewhere that it's a ~300MB package that will possibly take up to 45 minutes to install in the background. I also read that the changes it makes aren't that profound - boot straight to desktop on non-touch machines, a new power button in the metro UI (handy) and a few other tweaks involving metro apps and metro mouse-keyboard handling/user-friendliness.

...some are talking about ISO's, a lot of people want them but not everybody can get them. Not easily anyway.
I can see how it would be handy to have the updated ISO or the standalone update for the purposes of a clean offline install. I guess any copy of Win 8.1 that Microsoft sells after 08/04/2014 will have it included anyway.

On TechNet the update package is 360 MB for 32 bit and 770 MB for 64 bit. When the time comes to do a clean install on one of my PC's I always like to have the latest official version that has all the updates included. It makes for a faster install with less chance of things getting messed up though repeated trips to Windows update. TechNet is being discontinued so anybody on TechNet is going to grab what ISO's they can before their subscription times out. Microsoft have already produced the new ISO's with update 1 included so one would assume any new DVD's pressed would be from that image. It may take a while for those DVD's to show up on store shelves though. Retailers are going to want to sell their current stock before ordering new ones. I would think that any downloads from Microsoft would be the new version though. I think a lot of people are hoping they update this download to the update 1 version. http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/18309-windows-8-windows-8-1-iso-download-create.html?filter
 
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I installed the update (KB2919355) on the patch Tuesday when it was officially released. The update log shows that it was successfully installed. Today it is showing up again as one of the important updates but it is not automatically selected. Does anyone know why it would show up in my update list even though it shows that it was already successful run in the update log?
 

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I installed the update (KB2919355) on the patch Tuesday when it was officially released. The update log shows that it was successfully installed. Today it is showing up again as one of the important updates but it is not automatically selected. Does anyone know why it would show up in my update list even though it shows that it was already successful run in the update log?

What size was it, the last one I got was only 2. something MB. Its a patch to the already installed KB2919355. I don't know why Microsoft gave it the same KB number.
 

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I installed the update (KB2919355) on the patch Tuesday when it was officially released. The update log shows that it was successfully installed. Today it is showing up again as one of the important updates but it is not automatically selected. Does anyone know why it would show up in my update list even though it shows that it was already successful run in the update log?

What size was it, the last one I got was only 2. something MB. Its a patch to the already installed KB2919355. I don't know why Microsoft gave it the same KB number.


The (KB2919355) was 2.6 MB. I'm not sure about the size of the first (KB2919355). But I believe you are EXACTLY CORRECT that they are sending it out twice with the same KB number. I contacted Microsoft support this morning and they said the problem was due to Start8 which I figured was pure BS. So after I read your post I decided to dive into the "more info" link associated with the KB and low and behold:

5. Windows Update may offer update 2919355 again even when the computer already have update 2919355 installed. This is expected and is in order to resolve a
Windows Update client issue. Windows Update only installs the additional fixes for Windows Update clients instead of all the Windows 8.1 update packages.


So it looks like you nailed it and for that I am very grateful. After reading this I am going to go ahead and apply the update without much fear that it will hose things. BTW, I think it is a really bad idea to be re-using the same numbers. That can only be the source of a lot of confusion. What's the point of even having unique numbers. Gees.
 

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@NCGuy
thanx for checking

Start8. pfffff it is more likely that some advocate from SKY found a sky-drive label somewere.
 

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