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First Windows 8 PCs appear early, crapware included

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    First Windows 8 PCs appear early, crapware included


    Windows 8 doesn’t officially go on sale until October 26, but at least one high-volume retailer has jumped the gun on PC sales.

    Over the weekend, HSN.com, the online edition of the Home Shopping Network, offered a special on two new Gateway notebook PCs with Windows 8 preinstalled. A search turned up a total of 5 Acer and Gateway machines (Gateway is a division of Acer) available for sale today, with Windows 8 installed. A customer service representative confirmed that all five models are in stock and will ship immediately when ordered.
    Update 2, October 8, 5:00AM PDT - A Microsoft spokesperson responds:

    Unfortunately, HSN made this offer without the support or authorization of Microsoft.

    Microsoft and major retailers are getting ready for general availability of Windows 8 devices on 10/26 and not prior to that date. Once Microsoft learned of the HSN promotion, we contacted them and asked that they discontinue the on-air and online offer since it is not yet 10/26, the date that marks the official availability of Windows 8.

    An e-mailed statement included this quote from Peter Han, Microsoft's VP, US OEM: "We are looking forward to Windows 8 General Availability on October 26, when customers can take delivery of Windows 8 PCs at retail for the first time."

    The e-mail also included this quote from Scott Ledterman, Acer's VP, US Consumer: "We are excited to support Windows 8 with great Acer and Gateway offerings starting on October 26, but this HSN offer came prematurely and we've requested its immediate removal."

    Update 3, 8:00 AM PDT October 8: All five products are still listed on HSN's website, but attempting to purchase one results in this message: "We're sorry, this product has sold out and is no longer available."
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    I am wondering if the Surface Pro is all solid state? Any fans? ...like the idea of a touch screen laptop...
    even if only as a novelty.

    Would like to see a solid state laptop, no fans, touch screen, i7 cpu, 16GB memory, minimum 128gb ssd, 1920 by 1080, hdmi, vga ports, usb3, touch pad of course, full keyboard, no fn keys, at least 17" screen, etc... as a desktop replacement.

    What, they are offering more trial stuff with new Windows 8 computers?
    I think I will do a clean install on unallocated space.

    We are looking forward to Windows 8 General Availability on October 26, when customers can take delivery of Windows 8 PCs at retail for the first time.
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    I also wish to have a fanless i7 CPU, but I think it's not possible due to laws of thermodynamics and heat transfer.

    These OEM PC retailers should remove those preloaded crap and useless startup programs they include with their PCs. This is one big reason those consumers want a Mac.
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    I am no fan of so-called cr*pware, and indeed that last time I purchased a PC one of the first things I did was to uninstall the trial software. *I* will choose what I run on my machine, thank you. Unfortunately, a lot of people would not know how to remove what they didn't want, and some wouldn't even know that they don't need most of that stuff.

    The upside of it though is that these companies PAY manufacturers to install this stuff on new machines. That keeps PC prices lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Would like to see a solid state laptop, no fans, touch screen, i7 cpu, 16GB memory, minimum 128gb ssd, 1920 by 1080, hdmi, vga ports, usb3, touch pad of course, full keyboard, no fn keys, at least 17" screen, etc... as a desktop replacement.
    I don't require that much computing power in a portable device. For a desktop replacement, I want terabytes of storage space, I want replaceable graphics cards, I want easily upgradeable commodity parts, and I want a screen a helluva lot bigger than a 17" screen.



    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    What, they are offering more trial stuff with new Windows 8 computers?
    I think I will do a clean install on unallocated space.
    Every mfg is going to include some things called "Crapware". Some people actually think these things are "valuable". We enthusiasts are always going to start out clean. I just got some new Dell laptops at work for eval and within 2 days, they were formatted and rebuilt. I wouldn't have it any other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I don't require that much computing power in a portable device. For a desktop replacement, I want terabytes of storage space, I want replaceable graphics cards, I want easily upgradeable commodity parts, and I want a screen a helluva lot bigger than a 17" screen.
    I agree with that. Portables don't need that much horsepower. ...have always used externals for terabytes...
    agree also upgrade ability is very important - changing motherboards or CPU, memory etc... prefer to work on a small screen and plug in an external larger one for streaming videos - movies - Netflix etc..
    For years, fan noise has annoyed me, so I was never a big fan of towers with mega fan power. Even drive noise annoys me. Now, considering building a silent PC or spending some dough on a rig from endpcnoise.
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    Agree totally on fan noise. I run in towers, with quiet fans, and I use the minimum amount of fans that I can get away with. I shop for video cards based on fan noise more than performance.

    My workstations at work are running in Antec 300's, with the 2 x 120mm Antec Tri-Cool case fans on the lowest possible setting, and I use the stock Intel cooler even with a small overclock and it's nearly silent, and runs great.

    At home, I'm in an Antec P182, with 3 case fans all at lowest settings, with the stock Intel cooler, minor overclock and a reference eVGA GTX 570 and it's very quiet too.
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    In less than 5 years IMO, we will definitely have fanless x86 CPU and GPU hybrid tablets with enough horsepower to do moderate to heavy tasks like HD editing (through hardware acceleration) or heavy multitasking like crunching heavy calculations in MS Excel while streaming HD video.
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    Well, crap. I would wish OEMs put their crapware shortcuts on Start at least.

    As for the Surface Pro, I remember watching the keynote speech when they went over the Surface Pro. It's been designed with perimeter venting, so air can get in all over the sides on it. I think it will pack a third gen i5 processor, but I've read elsewhere it will be an Intel Atom Clovertail chip. But I feel like it'll an i5 as an Atom chip doesn't really need a lot of air cooling as it is.
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