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The Great Upgrade Upheaval

  1. #31


    Thanks to all for the answers on CC Cleaner

    I thought the whole idea MS had of the Registry is a unified database of configuration settings?

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  2. #32


    Hannover, Germany
    Posts : 37
    Windows 8 Pro x64 RTM Build 9200


    My upgrade to Windows 8 RTM from Windows 7 Ultimate was flawless, I didnt lose anything, all of my apps still functioned... I think people are mostly just whiney bitches, if you dont like it dont use it, if you do like it use it... its really that simple
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  3. #33


    Posts : 1
    windows 8


    I was not sure about Win 8 at first, but after using it for 4 months, I much prefer it to XP. Whether I would change from Win7 is a different matter.
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  4. #34


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    It's both DRM and Settings


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Thanks to all for the answers on CC Cleaner

    I thought the whole idea MS had of the Registry is a unified database of configuration settings?
    There can be no dispute that the Registry is full of settings information.

    Max Peck states that it is handy for software developers (I'm not a developer so I can't dispute this).

    My opinion is based on how the Registry actually operates (rather than what MS claims it does) and IMO, it's main function is to stop you moving software around (on your own machine or between machines).

    It's easy to test.
    Install some software and then move the program directory.
    A lot of programs won't run (or won't run correctly) if you do that.

    In Windows, the settings know where the program is supposed to be.

    In Linux, the programs know where the settings are supposed to be ("/etc").

    Before the Registry most software ran from floppy discs (only "High performance" machines had HDDs).
    This meant it was what we now call portable (even the OS was portable).
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  5. #35


    Hannover, Germany
    Posts : 37
    Windows 8 Pro x64 RTM Build 9200


    On the other side of that particular argument though...

    A LOT of applications will detect you have moved them and regenerate their own registry settings (i.e World of Warcraft), this is usually the case with apps that realise you are a real person and may occasionally need to move something.

    The second argument is that if you own the media already, then it shouldn't really be a problem for you to reinstall that application correctly...

    The third argument is that it does actually keep sensitive configuration information away from Grandma, she cant accidentally delete her config or modify it without knowing what the config actually does.

    There are reasons the registry exists, and really at the end of the day its up to the developers how much or how little of it they use, so go chase those ****ers with the stick
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  6. #36


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Interesting


    Quote Originally Posted by MisterApathy View Post
    A LOT of applications will detect you have moved them and regenerate their own registry settings (i.e World of Warcraft), this is usually the case with apps that realise you are a real person and may occasionally need to move something.
    I've never come across one of those (I don't play WoW).

    It must have been written by sane (or at least competent) people.

    I have come across programs whose exe files will still run (obviously the Windows integration is missing).

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterApathy View Post
    The third argument is that it does actually keep sensitive configuration information away from Grandma, she cant accidentally delete her config or modify it without knowing what the config actually does.
    That problem has been pretty much eliminated with the protected locations system.
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  7. #37


    Hannover, Germany
    Posts : 37
    Windows 8 Pro x64 RTM Build 9200


    I guess my point being, that at the end of the day its up to the developers whether they use it or not, nothing forces them to.
    But for storing various settings, integrating with windows correctly, and keeping some things away from the end-user if theyre things the end-user could get in trouble with... its a good thing to have available.

    I am sure developers could point out 100 reasons its a great thing.

    The real lesson from this kinda sub-discussion of the main thread should be - the registry generally speaking will contain a degree of information which should be routinely checked/cleaned, and if you are reinstalling/upgrading you should always be careful to verify whether any individual components/applications will behave correctly during that.

    In the case of Win 7 to Win 8, it will give you a compatability report before you even run the upgrade, the few things I had which failed I didnt really need and uninstalled. But everything else worked perfectly (in my personal experience of course, there could be horror stories out there somewhere too)
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