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The Great Upgrade Upheaval

  1. #11


    United States
    Posts : 650
    Windows 8.1 Pro, iOS 7.1, Elementary OS


    I'm just upgrading, see no reason not to. Purchased Start8, so why not?
    Various improvements!

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  2. #12


    Now, I will say, Windows 8 is usable with Start 8.
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  3. #13


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    It's obvious that a great number of people won't upgrade if they don't see a benefit from it.
    I would upgrade for the hybrid boot and new features (except Metro) but it's just me.
    And if 7 works well, then why upgrading?
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  4. #14


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    If Windows 7 becomes the new XP, it won't bother me to stay with it for another 10 years. As long as Microsoft keeps supporting it with updates and patches, I'll keep using it on my current PC's. I have no plans to upgrade those to windows 8. If I build or buy a new device then Windows 8 may end up on that device.
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  5. #15


    I don't plan to upgrade as I would rather not spend 40 on it. I would rather put 40 towards a game, some new hardware or something else.

    The only true way for me to show ms that I don't care for this tablet app style interface is to not use it. Perhaps this will lead to improvements in win9.
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  6. #16


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I have a good upgrade offer, stay on Windows 7 for 10 years and be one of those "weird" people.

    :P
    Paint me weird, then!

    -Max
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  7. #17


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    The Registry's main function is DRM.
    Incorrect. The registry is a repository for the entire system configuration as well as most applications running on the system. DRM is but only one of thousands of uses for the registry. The registry existed in Windows systems long before there was any such thing as "DRM".

    -Max
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  8. #18


    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I have a good upgrade offer, stay on Windows 7 for 10 years and be one of those "weird" people.

    :P
    Paint me weird, then!

    -Max
    I'm totally find with that.
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  9. #19


    Posts : 288
    Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9


    The author seems to have a valid point about the Registry and the AppData folder IMO. I too hate the idea of programs scattering their components on different parts of the machine like the Registry and AppData, leaving behind a lot of garbage when uninstalled which is said to cause performance degradation over time

    A number of the Desktop applications I use are portable so they don't touch the Registry as much. I like people who make portable software packages.

    When it comes to Windows 8, very few average users are talking about it and many still don't know that it exists unlike when Windows 7 was at this stage, it was a savior from the wreck people perceived of Vista.

    Maybe some OEM's will be smart enough to make Start Menu alternatives packaged into their machines. These guys will be heroes for Windows 8.
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  10. #20


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    The MAIN function is DRM (to prevent software copying)


    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    The Registry's main function is DRM.
    Incorrect. The registry is a repository for the entire system configuration as well as most applications running on the system. DRM is but only one of thousands of uses for the registry.
    A central settings repository is a good idea, but that isn't the real function that the Registry serves.

    Before the Registry:

    • Programs had ini and dat files which held that information (similar to Linux config files).
    • You could simply copy a program folder to another HDD/partition (or PC) and use it.

    The MAIN purpose of the Registry is to prevent that.
    Therefore the MAIN function is DRM (to prevent software copying).

    If it is simply a settings repository, why can't you move a program to a new location on the machine (e.g. different partition)?
    You can't do it, because it is specifically designed to prevent that.

    If it is supposed to hold vital settings information, why is it so fragile (i.e. prone to corruption)?
    The answer is that a corrupted Registry still serves its MAIN function, preventing software from being copied.

    All the other so-called features were tacked on afterthoughts (to try and disguise its true purpose).

    Example
    In XP, the Registry remembered folder settings.
    The number of folder settings it could remember was less than the number of folders in the basic OS!

    Linux has system-wide settings and libraries and it uses text config files to do it.
    I suppose that it could be argued that "/etc" is equivalent to the Windows Registry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck View Post
    The registry existed in Windows systems long before there was any such thing as "DRM".
    Incorrect.
    Simple DRM existed in early 1980's MS-DOS PC games (long before Windows).

    Quote Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
    The author seems to have a valid point about the Registry and the AppData folder IMO. I too hate the idea of programs scattering their components on different parts of the machine like the Registry and AppData, leaving behind a lot of garbage when uninstalled which is said to cause performance degradation over time

    A number of the Desktop applications I use are portable so they don't touch the Registry as much. I like people who make portable software packages.
    Before the Registry, all programs were portable.
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