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Top admen beg Microsoft to switch off 'Do Not Track' in IE 10

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    Top admen beg Microsoft to switch off 'Do Not Track' in IE 10


    Microsoft is in hot water with big-brand advertisers over its implementation of Do-Not-Track by default in the latest iteration of its Internet Explorer browser. The ad-slingers say Internet Explorer 10’s Do-Not-Track feature will hurt advertisers, consumers and competition.
    The Association of National Advertisers (ANA) has published an open letter to Microsoft’s chief executive Steve Ballmer, senior vice president and general counsel Brad Smith and chief research and strategy officer Craig Mundie opposing the fact DNT will be turned on by default in Windows 8’s browser.


    The letter comes less than a month before Windows 8 is due to be released to the public on new PCs and tablets.
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    Another situation where I can understand both sides.

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    While I, on the other hand, have no sympathy for them whatsoever.
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    The way I look at it, if something I am doing, makes a website organized better, faster, or more efficient than I am fine with it. It's not like I want them tracking me directly to sell me a product directly...but if Amazon were to change the way something on their website worked because 95% of the people went in and did Step1, Step2, and Step3...then I am all for it.
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    It's conundrum. The ad people are getting more "evil" all the time, though they should be permitted some amount, there does have to be a way to pay for all the free stuff we do on line. Cross site tracking I do not think should be one of them.

    But yes, also, the do not track feature on by default breaks some websites and will be a negative impact on IE10 on release. May cause a lot of people to move to FF/Chrome which do not have the feature or a watered down version that isn't as impactful. (I had to install FF for the first time EVER to get to a website just last weekend because I couldn't get IE10 to let me log into it)

    So while Do Not Track is in theory a great feature, in practical terms it may not work out well.

    P.s. I got an admin smackdown on seven forums some time ago for daring to even MENTION the feature in IE9!
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    I find it amazing how people are more than happy to have the Internet without having to pay for the use of every site they use, yet are completely against the way it's funded.

    Less ad revenue will only lead to a lower quality web experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    P.s. I got an admin smackdown on seven forums some time ago for daring to even MENTION the feature in IE9!
    Yeah, hopefully people realize that I am not encouraging people to turn on this feature. I could see how that could possibly ruffle feathers. I don't even use IE, so the inclusion of this feature is a non-issue for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
    I find it amazing how people are more than happy to have the Internet without having to pay for the use of every site they use, yet are completely against the way it's funded.
    Quote Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post

    Less ad revenue will only lead to a lower quality web experience.


    Yep, I can see this from both sides. I would have 0 problems turning that feature off. Sites like this do in fact benefit and do get better and better over time. Keep up the good work.


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    There should be some clear lines drawn to allow proper ad revenue without going overboard with the privacy invasion Sites like 7/8 forums seem to be benign, but other sites go freaking crazy, not to mention the millions of ad trap sites out there. Course trying to legislate such things itself is an even bigger nightmare than the problem itself :/

    But it would be nice if there could be a consensual set of rules that both users, admins and advertisers could all agree on and let that be good enough, without inventing even more devious ways of getting into peoples affairs. Otherwise the future on the net is going to be truly frightening.

    Ok, dear reader can stop laughing now
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    A very touchy topic indeed. Like Parks said, I can see both sides.

    I would guess most of the population doesn't know it even exists. So, to be fair, there should be a short tutorial to educate the user and then a choice given whether or not one wants it on or off. It should always be left up to the people to decide, not what an advertiser, MS, or anyone else to decide what is best for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    A very touchy topic indeed. Like Parks said, I can see both sides.

    I would guess most of the population doesn't know it even exists. So, to be fair, there should be a short tutorial to educate the user and then a choice given whether or not one wants it on or off. It should always be left up to the people to decide, not what an advertiser or anyone else to decide what is best for them.
    MS could do a lot more to inform there users, other than the almost impossible to use help menu.

    Both sides are easy to see, but the matter couldn't effect too much.
    IE8: "We're tracking you!"
    IE10: "Where are you?"
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    IMO, tracking (i.e. vacuuming up user's data) and advertising (i.e. displaying product/service info) are two different things.

    Q - If tracking was banned would companies stop advertising?
    A - Of course not.
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