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  1. #11


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    @ Cokerobot

    You really haven't a clue what I'm saying here.

    try installing something like Oracle Financials or any sort of ERP software (such as SAP CRM / SRM / E-WHM / HR etc etc) on W8 to say nothing of Photoshop or whatever.

    You obviously haven't a TOTAL CLUE about these sorts of applications which can create ZILLIONS of tiles on W8 when they are installed.

    Suggest "Please engage Brain before Opening Mouth" -- I.E READ and UNDERSTAND posts before replying.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Ms has made IMO a Monumental Bo - Bo in failing to recognize that a lot of traditional Desktop users still want a Desktop OS -- we don't need 4793 or even more tiles with a horizontal 3 KM left scroll to launch an application or even find it.
    I'm starting to think that lots of desktop users are just simple content consumers and perhaps never actually had much of a need for an actual PC/laptop, but had one simply because that was all that was available. No doubt, I was shocked by how many tablets sold with such limited functionality...but people seem to fall all over themselves to get a tablet.

    For us day-to-day users, business users, and such....I see very little benefit to this new OS release. I agree with you about all of the littering of tiles all over the start screen. Sure, you can clean it all up, but I for one believe that you shouldn't have to. Sure, down the the road, I am sure the problem will go away as app designers simply won't add them all to the start screen as is happening now. Just like the fact that I don't get 35 icons on my desktop when I install the Adobe Suite, but instead get a few icons and a bunch of Program Group entries instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Bad Call Ms -- You have to decide whether Windows will remain a desktop OS or a Mobile application -- and until this is sorted out any version of Windows later than W7 will have significant problems in gaining public acceptance.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I'm very curious to see what the public actually thinks. I thought MS had a good thing going, but the widespread adoption of tablets, Apple stuff in general and a move to the cloud really seemed to concern Microsoft greatly. They seemed to panic a bit and pushed hard to fend off the charge in direction with Windows 8. Only time will tell how that pans out. I think for many home users, who don't install all that many apps anyways...this might not be the end of the world. I think the biggest uphill battle will be from businesses who don't want to deal with the change, retraining, clutter, large applications, etc.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8.1 Pro, iOS 7.1, Elementary OS


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    Most "Traditional Laptop" users won't have anything to do with an "App Store".

    Ms has made IMO a Monumental Bo - Bo in failing to recognize that a lot of traditional Desktop users still want a Desktop OS -- we don't need 4793 or even more tiles with a horizontal 3 KM left scroll to launch an application or even find it.

    You can do a certain amount of optimisation or re-arranging of the tiles -- but nobody has come up with a decent way of launching applications that have a load of sub menus and sub sub menus. All these are displayed as individual tiles -- and before long you could have maybe 4,000 tiles -- extreme case I know but not impossible -- and just imagine the hideous amount of scrolling you have to do to launch an application.

    Bad Call Ms -- You have to decide whether Windows will remain a desktop OS or a Mobile application -- and until this is sorted out any version of Windows later than W7 will have significant problems in gaining public acceptance.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Bad Call Ms -- You have to decide whether Windows will remain a desktop OS or a Mobile application -- and until this is sorted out any version of Windows later than W7 will have significant problems in gaining public acceptance.

    Best quote of the day so far!
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  4. #14


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    I disagree > NOT a bad call at all - MS. Quite an inspired one, in fact.

    Windows 8 will do less well than Windows 7 initially.
    Windows 8 may be an unpopular Operating System.
    However, Windows 8 is a traditional desktop Operating System and can do anything that
    Windows 7 can do and more. > My desktop is not mobile.

    If an application creates "zillions" of tiles, then the application installer has been poorly written.

    Adobe Master Collection, Photoshop, Visual Studio, Corel, Office, Oracle Financials, and others that are compatible with Microsoft Platforms can function within the environment of Windows 8.
    Business is not the alpha and omega of life.

    The typical tile count (for the start screen) is between 1 and 80 averaging between 30
    and 50. Apps can be unpinned or uninstalled and removed from the screen.
    And the tile count can be reduced to minimal numbers.
    Making a statement that suggests hundreds to thousands of tiles is ludicrous and irrational.
    In any event, 500 tiles can be reduced to 20 in ten minutes or less.
    Suggesting that organizing should not be required has no merit since this has never been the case before with any system at any time.

    Once again, the semantic zoom feature in the all apps area is where the Operating
    System organization of installations is maintained. There is no need for nesting or hierarchies.

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    Last edited by mdmd; 03 Oct 2012 at 18:29.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 902
    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    One thing for sure..... we're all gonna know soon, real soon.
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  6. #16


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    Posts : 650
    Windows 8.1 Pro, iOS 7.1, Elementary OS


    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    One thing for sure..... we're all gonna know soon, real soon.
    and I for one, cannot wait!
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