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How Windows 8 will shake up the laptop market

  1. #11


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Convertibles and Hybrids are going to massively shake things up. It's going to change a lot of things. And we will see if Apple can even compete.

    The only down side is the technology is still really new, Main stream is going to have to help work out a lot of bugs and redesigns.

    :Tablets for me are going to be the odd devices I can't see a use for"

    I have to wholly disagree. Why do you think the Ipad is so successful. In the business world a lot of companies are starting BYOD
    The majority are bringing in Ipads. Windows 8 Pro devices are going to soon take that spot over in mass.
    When you can start running full fledged desktop software on these things. ipad won't stand a chance.


    I for one am highly excited about the next year.

    Trust me, Kindal and Nook are in trouble with the mass of people who travel. They won't need but one device for e-reading.
    Hi there
    BYOD is fine -- I use my own LAPTOP in a large corporate environment without any problems whatsoever.

    But Please tell me how you with one of these wretched tablets enter a complex spread sheet formula or try to create a Power point demo.

    Touch is totally 100% irrelevant for these types of applications -- also I don't see many (if any) users using an Ipad for logging on to a corporate SAP backend system using say SAPGUI.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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  2. #12


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    Most BYOD is also going the way of Terminal Services as well.
    So, with one of these convertibles, you can sit at your desk and use it as a laptop, then take it to a boardroom as a tablet and hook into projector and present whatever
    I mean, this isn't rocket science. no offense

    People now are doing this stuff with iPads, (yeah, they are), Win8's are only going to reset and change these dynamics for the better.

    I'm sorry that you and many others can not see the advantages of Win8 over all, the system is not that bad. The start screen is actually even more useful than gadgets in Vista/7, I mean they are the replacement for gadgets. But they are out of the way and it is very simple to switch between them when you want to see something.

    As for corps moving away from 7 to 8,, no, this will not happen. Many are only just now upgrading to 7 or trying to complete a full conversion to 7.
    However, on the personal use level and BYOD, Win8 and convertables are going to put ipad to shame in a heartbeat.

    I said this before though, getting rid of the full desktop would be a very bad idea, but for how well 8 does work over all, even on a laptop/desktop, it will change things considerably.

    That next step will perfecting Voice Recog, or trying out Dragon Speaking on a Win8 Pro Tablet. Imagine that for dictation, etc.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Well, I won't be in the market for a new lappy for about 2-3 years, as this one (Acer AS8951 - i7
    Sandy Bridge, 8GB RAM, 1.5TB HDD and 2GB GeForce GT555M) has BAGS of grunt for now, and
    into the future.

    And it's only six months old.

    No, it doesn't have a touch-screen, but that's fine, as I don't want one.

    And no, it isn't very portable, but I have the smaller AS5735 and an Android smart-phone for that.
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  4. #14


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    Win 8.1 Pro


    And that is great, but think about all the devices you potentially carry now.

    Most people should see the advantage in a win8 tablet as only having to carry maybe 2 devices (Tablet Convertible/Hybrid Win8 Pro and a Phone), will give you everything you need for travel, work and play.
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  5. #15


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    People - especially those who swear by using Ipads / tablets still can't seem to understand the basic premise that at work even if you can use these devices on the work network -- how in the world do you do complex spread sheets, power point demos, photoshop type applications, logon to backend systems like SAP (which DO require a myriad of concurrent Windows open maybe on several monitors or certainly at least two), or do any sort of I.T development using tools like visual studio.

    Ipads / tablets are totally unsuitable for these types of applications as is any sort of touch.

    For surfing, simple one off apps, and simple email then OK an Ipad is OK --but so is a smart phone. Maybe for movie playing too --but you must be in a fairly understanding workplace if you can watch movies or gossip on "farcebook" all day long .

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #16


    iPad users typically aren't hardcore PC users building complex spreadsheets, power points, etc. I think a great many people never actually needed a computer, but rather a social media toy. Now they are getting them and they are popular. Doesn't bother me, not my cup of tea.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 534
    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    People - especially those who swear by using Ipads / tablets still can't seem to understand the basic premise that at work even if you can use these devices on the work network -- how in the world do you do complex spread sheets, power point demos, photoshop type applications, logon to backend systems like SAP (which DO require a myriad of concurrent Windows open maybe on several monitors or certainly at least two), or do any sort of I.T development using tools like visual studio.

    Ipads / tablets are totally unsuitable for these types of applications as is any sort of touch.
    You're right, iPads are not suitable for this but Windows 8 Pro Tablets will be because they can do it all and run on the desktop with multiple windows.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Speaking of ipads, I was at the not so best buy today and overheard a lady who I guess was with her daughter PC shopping, and she said,"Could you use this instead of a computer?" She was playing around with an ipad. NO. You cannot use an ipad as a computer no more than you can use an ipod touch as a computer. So I was walking out and was outside and scoffed and laughed at that at how preposterous that was. You can't properly type a five paged essay or more, can't print it out of course, can't make a cool PowerPoint that is unless if you want it to look like one from the year 1992, you can't even copy files onto a USB drive, and you obviously cannot properly do extensive internet research with one.



    It'd be like using a bowling pin to shave with.
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  9. #19


    Posts : 40
    Windows 8 Enterprise


    I doubt hybrids have much of a future, really.

    Think of what a Tablet can do for you and then what it can't do for you.

    What it can do

    -Relieve you of a few hundred bucks.
    -Look pretty.
    -Tell you where you are and how to get where you want.
    -Let you surf the net, read email, check the weather in case you are walking in the park and are not sure if it's raining or not.
    -Lets you play the most stupid games ever invented, because there is only so much Touch can offer for gaming.

    What it can't do

    -Let you do real work. Touch is not exactly the best way to work with spreadsheets and documents, or anything else serious.


    Really, people's passion for tablets will eventually die out in 2 or 3 more years, because smartphones can do more, weigh less, and are smaller. Since a phone is already a dedicated communication device, adding some "smart" functionality, which already expands on its initial design and purpose, like reading and answering email, checking some websites, GPS, etc makes much more sense for both users and manufacturers to massively use them for everyday activities.

    Tablets could eventually fill a very specific niche, targeting people who are on the go often, letting them watch movies, and with an appropriate real keyboard equipped with the proper controls, serve as portable game consoles, maybe, although laptops have filled this niche quite well already and for frequent travelers they make more sense because they can also be used for serious work and give you more for your money in the long run.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 5
    Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Convertibles and Hybrids are going to massively shake things up. It's going to change a lot of things. And we will see if Apple can even compete.

    The only down side is the technology is still really new, Main stream is going to have to help work out a lot of bugs and redesigns.

    :Tablets for me are going to be the odd devices I can't see a use for"

    I have to wholly disagree. Why do you think the Ipad is so successful. In the business world a lot of companies are starting BYOD
    The majority are bringing in Ipads. Windows 8 Pro devices are going to soon take that spot over in mass.
    When you can start running full fledged desktop software on these things. ipad won't stand a chance.


    I for one am highly excited about the next year.

    Trust me, Kindal and Nook are in trouble with the mass of people who travel. They won't need but one device for e-reading.
    Hi there
    BYOD is fine -- I use my own LAPTOP in a large corporate environment without any problems whatsoever.

    But Please tell me how you with one of these wretched tablets enter a complex spread sheet formula or try to create a Power point demo.

    Touch is totally 100% irrelevant for these types of applications -- also I don't see many (if any) users using an Ipad for logging on to a corporate SAP backend system using say SAPGUI.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Do you not understand the concept f the hybrid? You can use it just like your laptop, then disconnect the screen and use it as a tablet to display your presentation you just created which is way easier than turning your whole laptop towards them and angling your screen so they can see. Then again they already have external keyboards for touch pads so who knows.
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