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Steve Ballmer Suggests Microsoft Has No Backup Plan if Windows 8 Fails

  1. #51


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    I read the whole article, Microsoft has lost ove 6 billion dollars to make marginal gains in the search engine business, Microsoft is trying to put a spin on it, and they also paid off yahoo to let them be their search engine.

    MSFT’s $6.2B Failure: Should They Get Out of Search? - Tech Trader Daily - Barrons.com
    Last edited by PaulGo; 23 Sep 2012 at 17:36.

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  2. #52


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    It doesn't matter what spin Microsoft or the investors put on it, doesn't change the fact that it continues to gain market share even if it is in small amounts. Failure would mean losing marketshare. As for Yahoo it's a moot point, Yahoo has lost market share and Bing has covered that loss maintaining the upward trend as a whole. So we've established that Bing isn't failing but also isn't performing as Microsoft expected and that they made a bad investment in the Ad company so we can move on.
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  3. #53


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    Yes the point of this thread is Steve Ballmer and my point I don't think Microsoft under his leadership has made the best bushiness decisions including losing over 6 billion on Bing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulGo View Post
    Yes the point of this thread is Steve Ballmer and my point I don't think Microsoft under his leadership has made the best bushiness decisions including losing over 6 billion on Bing.
    I suspect if Windows 8, Windows Phone 8 and Surface don't meet sale expectations Ballmer will be out. He has been bad for Microsoft.
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  5. #55


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    Let me tell you where Windows 8 fails and why it is a failure.

    1. Windows has a poor reputation, to put it gently. Words are not enough to describe how dreaded and hated it is. Having said that, Microsoft should have released their Tablet OS under a different brand name, like say "Surface OS", or for short sOS, or any name other than Windows, to avoid the massive prejudice a Windows-branded product would have to fight against. Windows RT, aka WOA is not a real Windows OS anyway, as it's incompatible with Windows 8 under the hood, so there is no point to call it Windows if it's not Windows.

    2. Metro could have been successful, if only Microsoft have not given it a split-personality and have put a "Desktop Pack" of features there, for work on, you know, Desktops, instead of making your mouse feel like a second-class citizen.

    3. Steve Ballmer is playing tough on consumers and OEM's, trying to get them to stop crying so much and learn to live with the change. Imagine how much everyone will start crying if he gives in and says "well, I will give you back your desktop if you want it so much". He will be forced to give it up in the end, but he doesn't want it to look that way, for now.

    Really, in his case he is the tail and the consumers with their money are the dog. He will either end up doing what consumers want, or be forced out of his CEO chair. He knows it, and we know it, but right now he doesn't want to openly admit it. He wants to give consumers more time to explore the change and get used to it before listening to any more feedback, because when drastic changes are made the people will cry against the change itself, not against what it brings or takes. Makes perfect sense.
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  6. #56


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    Microsoft CEO's bonus trimmed for Windows, browser misstep

    Microsoft Corp Chief Executive Steve Ballmer got a lower bonus than last year's, partly for flat sales of Windows and his failure to ensure that the company provided a choice of browser to some European customers.
    Ballmer, who took over as CEO from co-founder Bill Gates in 2000, earned a bonus of $620,000 for Microsoft's 2012 fiscal year, which ended in June, down 9 percent from the year before, according to documents filed Tuesday with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.


    Full article at:

    Microsoft CEO's bonus trimmed for Windows, browser misstep | Reuters

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    In my opinion there is no such thing as a replacement for the PC, Ballmer is delusional.
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  8. #58


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellius View Post
    Let me tell you where Windows 8 fails and why it is a failure.

    1. Windows has a poor reputation, to put it gently. Words are not enough to describe how dreaded and hated it is
    I suppose this is why it is the most used OS in the world. Unless you are only referring to W8

    Quote Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
    In my opinion there is no such thing as a replacement for the PC, Ballmer is delusional.
    There are many delusional "intelligent" types who have been predicting the demise of the PC. I, for one, don't consider a tablet or fancy "smart" phone to be a computer. They try but fall way short.
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  9. #59


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    Hi there
    Still running Windows 2003 server on my laptop -- have played around with W7 and W8 but NONE come anywhere near performance of W2003 server --and even though it's a 32 bit OS it still can by various bits of trickery unlike basic XP address > 4GB of memory too.

    W2003 server still has Ms support for the next few years -- I hope the cludge that is W8 will have faded into history by that time and Windows 9 (or whatever) will finally recognize the difference between people who expect their computer to behave like a smartphone and others who still want a "Traditional desktop" environment.

    Running a server as a desktop OS needs some sort of manipulation for example kill the nag screens when the server is re-booted , and allow Internet access properly -- but it's do-able and Windows 2003 server probably was MS's most efficient OS ever including W8.

    How to convert your Windows Server 2003... to a Workstation!

    (Classic old games still work on it too).

    I use it daily -- no intentions of abandoning it any time soon -- I don't care if office 2013 won't work on it --office 2010 does just fine for my needs.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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