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    Hands on with Windows RT (finally)


    With this week's unveiling of a handful of Windows RT devices, we finally have a chance to see how well the previously mythical RT desktop works.

    Windows 8 has been under a microscope for nearly a year, but its sibling, Windows RT, has been almost a complete mystery until now.

    At IFA 2012 in Berlin, the first wave of ARM-powered devices for Windows RT have finally been unveiled, and I had a chance to spend some quality hands-on time with one of them—Samsung’s new ATIV Tab. My colleague Avram Piltch of Laptop Magazine brought along a video camera to record our experience so you can judge for yourself.


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    I still don't understand why anyone would want to use the desktop on an RT device for anything other than Windows Explorer and Office 2013. However, the review was decent, even if it was all about the desktop on a device that won't run any desktop apps other than inbox ones...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
    I still don't understand why anyone would want to use the desktop on an RT device for anything other than Windows Explorer and Office 2013. However, the review was decent, even if it was all about the desktop on a device that won't run any desktop apps other than inbox ones...
    You just answered your own question.

    See, a 500 dollar tablet that doesn't have a USB port or a UI to copy and paste files is awful. For some people, having the ability to have a USB port and being able to expand storage and copy and paste files and back them up is a big one. And having Office versus a drab lite version that are on android and ios that attempt to outdo Office is a big one too. It seems WinRT tablets are geared towards the media consumer niche of the user market.

    Then there are the apps. There will be LOTS of them soon.
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    Yeah, the RT's restrictions don't appeal to me either. And Coke Robot, that's not the full office suite, its a watered down version just for the RT. I do believe Outlook for one is MIA, and that's something I use everyday. It's going to have to have a lot more going for it than just a USB port and file coping support for me to buy one.
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    If you're looking to get work done, and not a consumption device, an intel "pro" device would be recommended anyway. RT isn't designed to "get work done", at least not yet. We'll see if Intel can get the ultra-low-power variants out next year and that they work with decent performance (i.e. NOT an atom CPU). If not, I think there's some bet-hedging going on here too. Once Microsoft can get the majority of apps into the new UI, having intel compatibility or a desktop won't really be necessary and would allow RT-based devices to be more of a "work" device too.
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    Or if you want to consume and work and work while consuming, an Intel or AMD powered tablet is the choice. WinRT can consume. But we'll have to see how this pans out in a 3-5 year timeframe in how the ARM technology develops and the amount of content creating apps from the Desktop get ported over to WinRT. AMD's new Trinity APU can be FANTASTIC for tablet and mobile usage. I believe Intel's third generation mobile I-series processors are also great. Both companies are planning and developing on more energy efficient and more powerful chips within a couple of years. It's literally like the race we say 10 years ago on the desktop space processor wise, and what has been unfolding for a while now with laptops and now with tablet PCs. Pretty exciting stuff!

    The WinRT variant of Office 2013 has a few limitations like third party add-ons (pretty obvious there), macros, and no VBA support. Other than that, it's still the full Office suite. It's not necessarily watered down, just more battery optimized just like it is touch optimized. Now, a REAL watered down version of Office 2013 are the new Office Web Apps. They're WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY better than google's offering, and with features that Office 2010 Starter had. Or simply put, Word Web App has three tabs of content on the Ribbon whereas the installed Word app has eight tabs of content.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the preinstalled version of Office 2013 RT, the equivalent of the current Home and Student version? If so, I personally don't consider that "the full office suite".
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the preinstalled version of Office 2013 RT, the equivalent of the current Home and Student version? If so, I personally don't consider that "the full office suite".
    In the context it was written I believe it is "Full Office Features" not "Suite", other than not supporting Macros and VBA it has all the features of Word, Excel etc.
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    I think it might be, as Outlook hasn't been shown. It sounds more like Office Home and Student, which kind of reaffirms the target demographic here: students and casual users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the preinstalled version of Office 2013 RT, the equivalent of the current Home and Student version? If so, I personally don't consider that "the full office suite".
    In the context it was written I believe it is "Full Office Features" not "Suite", other than not supporting Macros and VBA it has all the features of Word, Excel etc.
    Yeah, I know, but somebody else in this thread posted "it's still the full Office suite" and that brought about my post.
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