Windows 8 and 8.1 Forums


Dell, HP Say Windows 8 Is Trashing PC Sales

  1. #11


    Mfgs like HP and Dell needs to realize that PCs have gotten too durable and are now discretionary spending items. Nobody is gonna pop $500-900 every year to upgrade Windows and their hardware.

    A lot of folks are using their smartphones and tablets to do work and eliminate the need for additional PCs in the house. When people were using Dumbphones and Blackberries they couldn't properly surf the web or do Facebook. Today it's better to Tweet or send Facebook status on your smartphone on the go than on the PC.

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  2. #12


    Posts : 636
    Windows 7/8


    Yup, were definitely reaching the point in time where PCs are simply massively overpowered for most tasks. Even as a gamer and enthusiast, I've got no need to update my now 3 year old machine in whole, something I have done for the last 20 years or so. It's got an SSD already and I just updated the graphics card because I felt I needed to upgrade SOMETHING (Though my now 4-5 year old video card was STILL keeping up ok with the latest games).

    So I am now set for another 3 years at least!
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #13


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    The desktop I had before my new rebuild was a Dell Dimension 4550 that went through two motherboards and P4 processors and a hard drive. I used it for a good seven or so years until Windows 7 came out (odd numerology on that one). Then I decided one must rebuild. I rebuilt the case so it looks nicer and has new parts. Now, I decided that with Windows 8 and Grand Theft Automobile 5 will be coming out, one must rebuild.

    And my rebuild will be essentially future proofing myself for a good five years at least; this is what I'm planning on right now: a new AMD APU quad core Trinity processor (might be overclocking it) with its Radeon 7000 series graphics chip in CrossFire with a Radeon 6990 (if I can flippin' find one and one built by ASUS ), probably 16 gigs of AMD built RAM as DDR3 is still rather dirt cheap than the last time I rebuilt my system, an ASUS mobo, a 128 gig SSD, eight 4 TB hard drives in RAID 5, two internal 2.5" hard drive bays, two external 2.5" ports, an external SATA connection for a 3.5" hard drive or my DVD drive that I'll be building an external enclosure for, a wifi card, a TV tuner, probably a dedicated RAID card, and to top it all off, the case is undergoing renovations so it looks even more sleeker, simpler, a little strange and totally different than anything out there (kind of like Windows 8 ).

    Aw yeah.
    With a lightweight box like that, why not just run Linux?

    -Max
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #14


    Quote Originally Posted by Got2BeReal
    A lot of folks are using their smartphones and tablets to do work and eliminate the need for additional PCs in the house. When people were using Dumbphones and Blackberries they couldn't properly surf the web or do Facebook. Today it's better to Tweet or send Facebook status on your smartphone on the go than on the PC.
    I agree and that's one more reason why it's useless to have W8 smartphone OS on a desktop PC: Those who have a PC do more than just tweeter, gmail and facebook. Metro Start Screen for PC is a waste of code lines.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal
    Yup, were definitely reaching the point in time where PCs are simply massively overpowered for most tasks. Even as a gamer and enthusiast, I've got no need to update my now 3 year old machine in whole, something
    My PC runs on the same processor, same graphic card and same MoBo in the same tower for 12 years (thought that's the only parts that remain from the original set up). And most applications I use open instantly. I don't see any real change in speed with last of brand computers sold today, except for brute force encoding (assuming crapwares and buggy services are turned off).
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #15


    Posts : 11
    windows 8


    I just gave up my Dell Dimension - 8 yrs old. Had a hard time with Win 8. At one point I packed up the new Dell to ship back. Steep learning curve here. Thanks to this group, Classic Shell, and finally figuring out that the Metro/Tile screen is a toy and the desktop is where the work gets done. Took me 3 days to figure out defaults like setting up Windows Photo Viewer for photos; bringing in the dreaded Adobe .pdf reader instead of the crap reader app (in full tile screen); etc.

    I love Windows 8 now, its sleek and fast. The best feature is the hourly file backup. I have 60,000 photographs that I work with every day. Most of my research is with .pdf's. Now with the big problems solved, I can get back to work!
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #16


    Welcome to EightForums, Jacy. Glad to read that you tweaked 8 to your liking. Good for you.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #17


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    Dell can eat beans IMO!! What would increase their sales? Linux hahahahahahahahhahahaha. Dell build to order, there are very few Dell computers out in the retail space with pre-determined configurations that has Windows 7 still on them, and from what I know of this OEM you can order a PC with 7, or Vista on them, also XP. MAYBE if Dell reduced their PCs cost they would enjoy more sales? From what I can see is people buying PCs left and right at places like BestBuy, Walmart's, etc. WHY are they able to sell these OEM systems, and the OEMs can't eh?
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  8. #18


    I don't see Samsung complaining!
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  9. #19


    Posts : 2,156
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    The point you are missing, "Steve" is that most desktop users tend to keep a unit longer because it can be upgraded with ease and at reasonable cost, consumers do this as do businesses. The bottom line is that they are built to last longer by way of upgrades and robustness. It isn't that people don't like them anymore.
    Yeah, my home desktop computer was built in June of 2009 and is now 3 years old. But for my needs it's a complete beast. Quad core intel, 12MB L3 cache, overclocked,8GB RAM, Nvidia gtx570 video card (1,280MB), 80GB Intel SSD, and 1TB WD Caviar Black.
    Me too. See system specs. Built it less than 2 years ago. Why would I replace it?

    Not replying specifically to you here:

    All note that the linked "source" was not clear on whether talking desktops, laptops, or both. I suspect it is both. Regardless, I think that Windows 8 being on "all" the new OEM computers, both desktops and laptops, may be a factor in slower PC sales. Windows 8 has had a lot of bad press, and bad press, in general, produces lots of effects--at least temporarily. Another point of interest is that there are a lot of very nice PC's out there for very low prices, and economic conditions are somewhat better "this" year--although we still have a great many economic uncertainties. Bottom line for me, I guess, is that. all things considered, Windows 8 being on "all" the new OEM PC's may very well be at least partially responsible for at least a current hurt on PC sales.
    Last edited by znod; 16 Jan 2013 at 21:54.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  10. #20


    Posts : 902
    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    PC sales, without factoring in assorted cpu, motherboard etc sales are entirely meaningless.
    In my entire life, I have never bought a "PC"....likely never will, although I have been online since '94.

    Assume there are millions like me, who never get counted as "PC" sales.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Dell, HP Say Windows 8 Is Trashing PC Sales
Related Threads
Source A Guy
Windows 8.1 is a winner, but PC sales will plummet, says Gartner | Computerworld Blogs
Dell replays Windows 8 blame card as PC sales slide - Computerworld
Source Some interesting reading. . .;) Thanks Brink. Just cannot remember how to do posting anymore. . .:)
Solved HDD constantly trashing in Drivers & Hardware
Hi, I've recently installed Windows 8 on an Asus X201E. There is an audiable constant disk trashing, although the HDD LED doesn't blink & the Performance monitor in the task manager also doesn't indicate any excessive disk access (literally 0% when nothing is going on). What could cause this?...
Eight Forums Android App Eight Forums IOS App Follow us on Facebook