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Can Microsoft Fail?

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    Can Microsoft Fail?


    In anticipation of the Windows 8 release, there has been speculation on Microsoft's future. Will the company break out of its slump? Will it get a new image? How will Windows 8 do? What if nobody likes it? What happens next?

    Let's get a few things straight. Even if Windows 8 is a huge dog and bombs the way Vista did, it will not matter. There is still nothing out there that can take Microsoft out of the game. Apple has the only other quality operating system out there, and it is proprietary and still more expensive. Money and cost are important.
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    There was a Microsoft VCR?!

    I really doubt Windows 8 or Microsoft will fail. People can adapt to UI changes, but can't adapt to inept performance like vista.
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    People (especially IT people, who are the ones complaining about change the most after 17 years of basically static UIs) can adapt to change, but Microsoft has realized that drivers and hardware partners are just as much a part of a product like Windows' success as the software itself. It's probably part of the reason something like Surface even exists - give the OEMs and vendors a swift kick in the rear to stop making cookie-cutter crap (and crapware, I suppose).
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    MS is trying to get a slice of the Tablet and Phone market which has a lot of growth potential so they came up with Windows 8. For the PC a lot of people will buy Windows 8 but those that don't will buy Windows 7. Either way MS makes money.

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    Stumble maybe, fail as a company, I doubt it. People can adapt to inept UI changes, if forced to. Or Microsoft might adapt and produce an OS that's more suited and usable on all types of computing devices, not just touch devices. They've put out duds before and recovered. And before everybody starts ranting at me for the "forced" comment I'll just say this. Sooner or latter that new computing device that you buy that runs a Microsoft OS, is going to come with Windows 8 preinstalled. Most people aren't going to know you can, or even think about downgrading to Windows 7 until they get the thing home and try to use it. Right about then I expect things to pick up around here with the same questions asked ad nauseam. Some will get it some won't. I like Windows 7, its a great OS, but there is always room for improvement. I just don't like the way Windows 8 is headed, and I don't think I'm alone. Only time will tell.
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    I don't forsee everybody liking the design changes of Windows 8, but I don't see these people being so unhappy with the change that they jump ship and go elsewhere. They will simply deal with and grumble every now and again.
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    In my view, win8 is far worse than Vista.

    Mr Ballmer is not expecting it to be any more popular than Vista was.

    It doesn't matter - it will get them a toehold in the small device things.

    That is better than they had in that area before - simply because they had nothing to offer there before. That is all they care about atm.

    They can afford to have an unpopular one now.
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    They do seem to be fixated on Tablets. I never used Vista so I can't comment on that. Vista and ME are probably the only two I never used on my own personal PC's. With all the price cuts and EULA rewrites it does seem like they are worried it won't sell as a standalone product. With Windows 7 being the new XP, it very well could be a tough job to upsell Windows 8 to those users. I have two desktop PC's and one laptop running Windows 7. At best I might upgrade my main PC to windows 8. I've been using it as my main OS on that PC and waiting for it to win me over. It hasn't happened. If it crashed right now and I had to go back to windows 7 it would be no big deal and I wouldn't loose any sleep over it. The only thing that has me even considering it, is the $40 upgrade offer. If I can buy one and save it for a future build I might byte. Otherwise I'll likely pass.
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    Microsoft failing as a going concern. No, not in the foreseable future. They have monopoly on the Windows(TM) compatible OS business. No other commercial company is offering a concurent Windows compatible OS. That means Microsoft can afford several blunders in a row with its main OS product and still make money.
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks
    I don't forsee everybody liking the design changes of Windows 8, but I don't see these people being so unhappy with the change that they jump ship and go elsewhere.
    Now the question will Microsoft lose popularity because of W8? The answer is: It already has. Until now they didn't care of the bad comments and recommandations because they consider those who wrote them as exentric geeks, not the normal users from their telemetry. But they won't be that smug when average joes start complaining too. And then we talk about millions of poeple complaining.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke
    I really doubt Windows 8 or Microsoft will fail. People can adapt to UI changes, but can't adapt to inept performance like vista.
    The failure at Redmond is that they don't seem to understand that it's not the poeple that should adapt to Microsoft but Microsoft that should adapt to the poeple. Microsoft has proven in the last months when W8 was previewed, that they are unable to listen to criticism, unable to fix what everybody says it doesn't work, unable to show flexibility, unable to act according to responses on their blog. Even worse: They take a radical policy, refusing totaly to question certain things. Customer relations is taking a huge hit as we speak. They just don't realize that yet. A corporate leadership which shows such a level of stubborness and arrogance is not good for the future of a company. The "we know better than you" attitude is not what will earn them respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post
    Now the question will Microsoft lose popularity because of W8? The answer is: It already has. Until now they didn't care of the bad comments and recommandations because they consider those who wrote them as exentric geeks, not the normal users from their telemetry. But they won't be that smug when average joes start complaining too. And then we talk about millions of poeple complaining.
    I don't think it matters. They had people who were mad with ME, they had people who were mad with Vista. So, for those who were irritated with Vista, they just stayed on XP. Some jumped to 7 when 7 came out. Very few people left MS altogether because of it. Didn't happen then, won't happen now.
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