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Five ways Windows 8 overhauls the PC

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    Five ways Windows 8 overhauls the PC


    In 2009, J.J. Abrams rebooted the fictional Star Trek chronology and franchise. In 2011, DC Comics did the same with its superheroes. But now Microsoft is about to reboot the very real Windows operating system, and it will forever change how we use computers.

    Windows 8 is Microsoft's answer to the question of how to integrate mobile and desktop computing. For the most part, it succeeds, but it's an ambitious answer that will be best understood only when many people to stop thinking of desktop and mobile as discrete entities.
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    I respect and admire poeple who try and take risks at doing something new, innoative. In this case however I'm afraid that you don't overhaul computer life that easily. Coming up with Metro Start Screen shows that they don't understand the complexity of tasks one makes on a computer. They assume poeple are using their computer like they are using their cellphone. No. Poeple will still look for their files in a list, they will still look for the "Documents" folder, they will still save files on the HD and they will still print their textes off Word text editor or off PDF reader. Touch screen or not touch screen the work on a computer will still be fundamentaly the same in 100 years from now, just as handwriting is still the same as 100 years ago. I admit W8 is an interresting experiment, I even admit that the new interrface is cool in some ways, but only buffoons are saying it will make a revolution in the way we use computers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post
    I respect and admire poeple who try and take risks at doing something new, innoative. In this case however I'm afraid that you don't overhaul computer life that easily. Coming up with Metro Start Screen shows that they don't understand the complexity of tasks one makes on a computer. They assume poeple are using their computer like they are using their cellphone. No. Poeple will still look for their files in a list, they will still look for the "Documents" folder, they will still save files on the HD and they will still print their textes off Word text editor or off PDF reader. Touch screen or not touch screen the work on a computer will still be fundamentaly the same in 100 years from now, just as handwriting is still the same as 100 years ago. I admit W8 is an interresting experiment, I even admit that the new interrface is cool in some ways, but only buffoons are saying it will make a revolution in the way we use computers.
    It's interesting that "power users" are the ones that come up with the most reasons why Windows 8 will fail and they base it on the way THEY use the computer. In the billions of users in the Windows world "power users" are only a small percentage and therefore it cannot be assumed their way is how everyone does it. There is already enough evidence that shows that millions of people like simple computing, if that were not the case Apple would not have sold so many millions of iPads. The more of these news postings I read the more I notice a trend in the comments of more people accepting and liking Windows 8. Even this article linked here which actually has a poll the "Yes, Upgrade to Windows 8" and "Yes, buy a new computer with Windows 8" counts for 46% of the votes. If you add the "Maybe's" it jumps to 80% in favor of Windows 8. That's a pretty impressive amount for an OS that is set to fail by so many.
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    If you add "Maybe" to the other options, it jumps to 54% opposed.
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    There was dramatic increase in those saying they were likely to get win 8 - after the $40 price was revealed.

    MS did the right thing there - but it tells you something.

    I think it is true a large proportion of the population only needs a computing device of some kind for very simple stuff - bit of browsing and online shopping, bit of emailing - Fbooking - perhaps a time wasting game or two while they are on the train. That's pretty much it.

    Nothing wrong with that - if it's all folk want to do - fine.

    They can do it on a phone.

    They might get something slightly lrager to do exactly the same things - but with a bigger screen - fine - $200 for a Nexus is plenty good enough.

    There is a big market for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    If you add "Maybe" to the other options, it jumps to 54% opposed.
    Even so you'd expect much higher opposed given all the negativity against Windows 8, or should I say negativity tech bloggers and power users give Windows 8.

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    There was dramatic increase in those saying they were likely to get win 8 - after the $40 price was revealed.

    MS did the right thing there - but it tells you something.
    Really? I'd be interested in the link to where you read that because it wasn't in the article referenced here.
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    Perefctly obvious to those of us who have been following this for a long time.

    For example - there was a thread on this very forum asking will you upgrade to win8.

    Can't recall the exact figures , but it was was more no's - until the $40 was announced - then it switched very rapidly.

    There is nothing surprising about that.

    What do you think the $40 deal is for?
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    There is a lot of negativity about win8 - a big contrast to the way win7 was received thru the various beta's - ( there were a lot of leaks, too ).

    It is clear why that is.

    The two Steve's are trying to get some kind of toe hold in the mobile market, they fear they may never get in unles they do it now.

    Therefore, they have produced an o/s aimed squarely at the tablet market. There will also be a phone o/s - which will appear similar to the average punter.

    However, MS traditional user base ( 1.5 billion, allegedly ) are largely desktop users.

    Not hard to see where the problem lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    If you add "Maybe" to the other options, it jumps to 54% opposed.
    Let's split the maybe-s and add to the results:

    Yea: 61.5%
    Nay: 32.5%

    We'll even give you the "Others".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    There was dramatic increase in those saying they were likely to get win 8 - after the $40 price was revealed.

    MS did the right thing there - but it tells you something.

    I think it is true a large proportion of the population only needs a computing device of some kind for very simple stuff - bit of browsing and online shopping, bit of emailing - Fbooking - perhaps a time wasting game or two while they are on the train. That's pretty much it.

    Nothing wrong with that - if it's all folk want to do - fine.

    They can do it on a phone.

    They might get something slightly lrager to do exactly the same things - but with a bigger screen - fine - $200 for a Nexus is plenty good enough.

    There is a big market for that.
    You're kind of assuming that people ONLY use computers/devices for the most simplest thigs ever. Not true. The average user does do that, but they do Office, they do entertainment like wirelessly connecting their PC to their TV or using their Xbox. Some use Photoshop, some use Facebook. Sweeping generalizations of the 99% of Windows users of how they use their PCs is absurd. Not everyone has five monitors and 80 open windows and not everyone uses a 15 inch screen to troll Facebook.
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