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Five ways Windows 8 overhauls the PC

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Perefctly obvious to those of us who have been following this for a long time.

    For example - there was a thread on this very forum asking will you upgrade to win8.

    Can't recall the exact figures , but it was was more no's - until the $40 was announced - then it switched very rapidly.

    There is nothing surprising about that.

    What do you think the $40 deal is for?
    No, you said "There was dramatic increase in those saying they were likely get win 8 - after the $40 price was revealed.", this is not a statement of opionion based on observation you are stating fact. So unless you have a link that backs up this statement you are only implying that it was based on the thread in these forums which means it is irrelevent to the poll in the article. Had your statement been one of the choices in the poll then yes we could say the $40 had swayed votes.

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  2. #12


    Here are the numbers so far as both the article poll and the Forum poll (Will you upgrade? That is the question... - View Poll Results) are concerned. I am splitting the maybe-s and adding to both yays and nays.

    Article:
    Yay 61.5 %
    Nay 32.5 %

    Forum:
    Yay: 54.065 %
    Nay: 45.925 %

    I think the forum shows a little more prejudice (for the lack of a better word) since there's more Pros that vote here than would on the article site. I'll also dare say that at least 2/3 of the maybe-s will end up changing to 8.
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  3. #13


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Perefctly obvious to those of us who have been following this for a long time.

    For example - there was a thread on this very forum asking will you upgrade to win8.

    Can't recall the exact figures , but it was was more no's - until the $40 was announced - then it switched very rapidly.

    There is nothing surprising about that.

    What do you think the $40 deal is for?
    Actually, I started that thread. I followed it daily noting the changes and basically, the no's and yes' were quite even with a good maybe margin. Overall though, the yes' pretty much held in slight majority over the no's. There were a couple of moments where the no's had it, but then a few hours later the yes' had it. Even when the upgrade info was released, the stats remained the same except the people that answered yes grew over the people that said no where the amount of maybe's increased a bit and no's increased a bit. The upgrade price didn't seem to have a HUGE effect, but as the cost was taken away from the cons list, more people will obviously upgrade and more people will give it more consideration than before.
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  4. #14


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Here are the numbers so far as both the article poll and the Forum poll (Will you upgrade? That is the question... - View Poll Results) are concerned. I am splitting the maybe-s and adding to both yays and nays.

    Article:
    Yay 61.5 %
    Nay 32.5 %

    Forum:
    Yay: 54.065 %
    Nay: 45.925 %

    I think the forum shows a little more prejudice (for the lack of a better word) since there's more Pros that vote here than would on the article site. I'll also dare say that at least 2/3 of the maybe-s will end up changing to 8.
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  5. #15


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    There is a lot of negativity about win8 - a big contrast to the way win7 was received thru the various beta's - ( there were a lot of leaks, too ).

    It is clear why that is.

    The two Steve's are trying to get some kind of toe hold in the mobile market, they fear they may never get in unles they do it now.

    Therefore, they have produced an o/s aimed squarely at the tablet market. There will also be a phone o/s - which will appear similar to the average punter.

    However, MS traditional user base ( 1.5 billion, allegedly ) are largely desktop users.

    Not hard to see where the problem lies.
    They didn't really aim solely at the mobile market, they were aiming for the new PC market, and that is the tablet and touchscreen. They also aimed it at every other PC. So basically, the aimed it at PCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    If you add "Maybe" to the other options, it jumps to 54% opposed.
    Let's split the maybe-s and add to the results:

    Yea: 61.5%
    Nay: 32.5%

    We'll even give you the "Others".
    That was based on the figures that were on the site around the time RobR posted.

    It's now:
    (No + Maybe)
    Yes: 44
    No: 55

    (Yes + Maybe)
    Yes: 79
    No 20

    The point is that if you add" Maybe" to either side (in a lot of "super scientific" polls ) the results skew the way the person doing the addition wants.

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  7. #17


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    I can only say that I am surpirsed how many are still no or maybe.

    $40 is a gift - even if you don't like it much - that is not a purchase decision - it is an impulse buy.

    Maybe Steve B should have just made it free.
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  8. #18


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    @Cokie,

    Sweeping generalizations of the 99% of Windows users of how they use their PCs is absurd
    I said something quite different - did you ever think about reading a post before replying?

    I think it is true a large proportion of the population only needs a computing device of some kind for very simple stuff
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    If you add "Maybe" to the other options, it jumps to 54% opposed.
    Let's split the maybe-s and add to the results:

    Yea: 61.5%
    Nay: 32.5%

    We'll even give you the "Others".
    That was based on the figures that were on the site around the time RobR posted.

    It's now:
    (No + Maybe)
    Yes: 44
    No: 55

    (Yes + Maybe)
    Yes: 79
    No 20

    The point is that if you add" Maybe" to either side (in a lot of "super scientific" polls ) the results skew the way the person doing the addition wants.
    Yes, I'll grant you that. We'll have to keep an eye on the polls. I'm sure some of members will vote in both poles after reading this thread. Bottom line is that sometimes "people" polls can be altogether wrong. I wonder if someone is running an analysis through a computer program on this subject? Nov. 4, 1952: Univac Gets Election Right, But CBS Balks
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  10. #20


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    Yes, it's true - what people say in a poll is not necesssarily what they end up doing.
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