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Offical release for MSDN and TechNet subscribers

  1. #1


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    Windows 8 Pro ($39.99 upgrade)

    Offical release for MSDN and TechNet subscribers


    • August 15: MSDN and TechNet subscribers will be the first to get access to the new software.
    • August 16: Software Assurance customers and Microsoft Partner Network members will get access to the operating system.


    Will be nice to hear some reviews of the real thing, anyone around here a subscriber?

    TC

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    64-bit Windows 10


    Yep, I have a MSDN and TechNet subscription. When I get it on the 15th, I'll be sure to post about it.
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    Posts : 636
    Windows 7/8


    Yeah I'll be getting it on wed too. Not being able to activate it will be a PITA though :/ after this I'll probably drop my technet sub, If this is the way it's going, it's just not worth it when you can DL, install and run the ISOs for free anyway (unactivated).

    I want to test out using it in a Small server capacity as well as a desktop, but... At exactly what point does one decide to burn their ONE key with it's SINGLE activation? Never? What if you do it today then later need to use it on a different machine? Oh well. 1 key 1 activation might as well be to zero keys and zero activations, there was a reason, a GOOD reason it used to be 10 keys 10 activations. Only 1 or 2 new things (if that) come out a year, you might as well just buy a licensed copy of it for testing now... (Not sure if 6 weeks of early testing is worth the price by itself either)
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    I have an MSDN subscription and will download this on the 15th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    Yeah I'll be getting it on wed too. Not being able to activate it will be a PITA though
    Why? With 95% of the software that i download from MSDN, almost nothing ever gets activated. I expect that with Windows 8 after install, you will get at least 30 days to activate and can probably do the reactivation trick a few more times to get an additional 30-90 days without ever activating.

    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    I want to test out using it in a Small server capacity as well as a desktop, but... At exactly what point does one decide to burn their ONE key with it's SINGLE activation? Never?
    Yes, never is actually the right answer. Technet is and always was, an evaluation platform. It was intended to give you free access to the software so that you could test and evaluate whether using the software was feasible. Once you determined via your eval that you wanted to use the software going forward, it was always expected that you would then purchase a legit key for the software.

    My personal opinion, if you were actually activating your Technet software, you were using it longer than you should have been. Everything should be been doable without actually activating it. If you were activating it, it was your everyday machine and wasn't supposed to be licensed with Technet software.
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    Windows 7/8


    The reason to activate it is so that you don;t have to constantly reinstall it /every/ time you go to use it. (Kind of like how I have to do a HUGE update to every game on the XBOX if it's been a month since I last played it, on top of an xbox update ever time I turn the machine on after a while.

    I'll sometimes install a copy and use it for one day then 6 weeks later desperately need it again only to be hit with having to reinstall it (AND all the support software) all over again UGH. Being able to activate it was EXTREMELY convenient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    The reason to activate it is so that you don;t have to constantly reinstall it /every/ time you go to use it. (Kind of like how I have to do a HUGE update to every game on the XBOX if it's been a month since I last played it, on top of an xbox update ever time I turn the machine on after a while.

    I'll sometimes install a copy and use it for one day then 6 weeks later desperately need it again only to be hit with having to reinstall it (AND all the support software) all over again UGH. Being able to activate it was EXTREMELY convenient.
    So, install it within a virtual machine and activate that. Then, you will have 1 full time activated machine that you can easily make backups of in case screw something up.

    For my testing, I usually just mount an iso, install in a VM. I don't often worry about getting all of the Windows updates or anything else. I just take the software I am testing, then load it. See how it works, and see if it will make it into my everyday machine. if not, then I just delete the VM when done and spin up a new one down the road when I need to test something else out new. With getting 120 days with Windows 7 (with the rearm trick), that meant only 3 installs required during a year. Not a big deal for my testing.
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    Windows 7/8


    Well that's good advice for probably the best use of the one activation. Though VMs are great (I expouse their use all the time) They are not necessarily good for everything. It would not work well to test the efficiency of using WIn 8 as a file/print server when run in a VM as opposed to on real hardware for example.

    There's no way around it, technet has been nerfed badly. And in the Windows 8 case (if rumors are true) to near unsuitability for the purpose. Sure you can work round the limitations by jumping through hoops but, like I said it would be as cheap or cheaper to just purchase straight out upgrades of any end user software you needed to test with at this point.

    In fact I feel a little POed now about the Technet guys that called me up asking, practically begging, me to renew my sub (Which I was going to do) and using WIndows 8 as the excuse and then they nerf it so badly I could have just bought a real copy for less :/ (I use other software in there too, but using the Win 8 release as a reason to keep it, then changing the rules TWICE after re-upping is not cool)
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    Windows 7/8


    P.S. as an example (using the VM situation) of why the one key one activation is STILL useless...

    The keys last FOREVER (and I assume the activations too). So you may be using VMWare today, activated your * install, then find the hardware acceleration is lacking, so you install Virtual Box and it works WAY better. Ooops! To bad. Activation already used up... :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    Well that's good advice for probably the best use of the one activation. Though VMs are great (I expouse their use all the time) They are not necessarily good for everything. It would not work well to test the efficiency of using WIn 8 as a file/print server when run in a VM as opposed to on real hardware for example.
    If you wanted to test the efficiency of using Win8 as a file/print server, could you not just use the install without activation for this? I don't see why you would need to activate "that" particular machine if you are just trying to get a feel for home something works.

    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    There's no way around it, technet has been nerfed badly.
    Also, abused badly. It was intended for IT professionals to test with, but then because of high licensing costs and the fact that MS never checked to ensure you were an IT person using it, many home users started buying these to license the collection of home machines, laptops, etc. I wouldn't necessarily say they "nerfed" it, but rather closed an exploited loophole.

    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    In fact I feel a little POed now about the Technet guys that called me up asking, practically begging, me to renew my sub (Which I was going to do) and using WIndows 8 as the excuse and then they nerf it so badly I could have just bought a real copy for less :/ (I use other software in there too, but using the Win 8 release as a reason to keep it, then changing the rules TWICE after re-upping is not cool)
    Still at $200, you get an incredible amount of software. As an IT professional, you would need to test other OS's, as well as the server products (Windows server, SQL Server, Exchange Server, Home Server). Technet is still an incredible deal for everything you get.

    In your case, you were hoping to use it to get free copies of Windows 8 that you could use on all of your own personal home machines indefinetly. Unfortunately, they are closing this loophole. But on the flipside, are going to make upgrades available for $39 and still waiting to hear how inexpensive the new non-upgrade version will be.
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