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Metro Whining and Other Windows 8 Madness

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    Metro Whining and Other Windows 8 Madness


    I don't care much about the Metro name change brouhaha. I couldn't care less except for the fact that I have to change some of the Metro references in some writing I've done for upcoming pieces on Windows Server 2012. Frankly, I don't care much about the Metro interface at all—I've been using Windows 8 client and Server 2012 extensively now, for almost six months.

    There is nothing in Metro I can find that impedes the Windows user experience with which I am familiar. I have not had any device driver issues as of yet (either on the Windows 2012 Server side or the Windows 8 client side) and, if anything, I feel that the Metro-ish UI lends to a greater desktop customization than ever before, and I mean serious customization that goes well beyond placing an image of cute kittens on the desktop.

    But people care about Metro very much and not in a care because they love it way, a care more as if Metro is akin to the village Frankenstein people would hunt down and kill if it could walk way.

    Even here, in the typically peaceful PCMag Labs, there are two clear cut sides: anti-Metro and while I wouldn't exactly say pro-Metro there are those of who feel that the Metro UI is being irrationally demonized. Even Sascha Segan, my colleague who I am usually pretty much in lock-step agreement with on technology matters, outlined his grievances against Metro in a recent column.

    Here's why I think a lot of the Metro criticism is just hysteria.....


    Read more at:
    Metro Whining and Other Windows 8 Madness | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

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    I have to say , her colleague is spot on:

    If Microsoft continues down this path, the strategy will backfire, and PC owners with a choice will likely skip this version of Windows, much as they did with ME and Vista.
    Microsoft's Massive Metro Mistake | News & Opinion | PCMag.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I have to say , her colleague is spot on:

    If Microsoft continues down this path, the strategy will backfire, and PC owners with a choice will likely skip this version of Windows, much as they did with ME and Vista.
    Agreed, that is my plan. Stick with Windows 7. No real benefit for me of 8.
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    I would love it if those squawking the loudest about Metro could also offer their thoughts on other features of Windows 8 client and Windows Server 2012: such as QoS management, ReFS and Storage Spaces, Windows To Go…..or are they too stuck on a start screen?
    Well said.

    Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    I would love it if those squawking the loudest about Metro could also offer their thoughts on other features of Windows 8 client and Windows Server 2012: such as QoS management, ReFS and Storage Spaces, Windows To Go…..or are they too stuck on a start screen?
    Well said.

    Jim
    One could ask, why did Microsoft ruin such a great OS upgrade with the metro crap then. Metro is SO BAD (for a certain section of people, you know, those people that USE their computers) that almost nothing else matters. If you can't use your machine any more, who cares what other more subtle improvements there are?!?

    MICROSOFT did that, not the users...

    Yeah if it weren't for Metro destroying the interface (Customisable my you-know-what, that guy doesn't even begin to understand what a customised desktop is to have said that) we'd all be jumping for joy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    I would love it if those squawking the loudest about Metro could also offer their thoughts on other features of Windows 8 client and Windows Server 2012: such as QoS management, ReFS and Storage Spaces, Windows To Go…..or are they too stuck on a start screen?
    Well said.

    Jim
    Agree on that, Jim...............Well, Guys and Gals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    I would love it if those squawking the loudest about Metro could also offer their thoughts on other features of Windows 8 client and Windows Server 2012: such as QoS management, ReFS and Storage Spaces, Windows To Go…..or are they too stuck on a start screen?
    Well said.

    Jim
    One could ask, why did Microsoft ruin such a great OS upgrade with the metro crap then. Metro is SO BAD (for a certain section of people, you know, those people that USE their computers) that almost nothing else matters. If you can't use your machine any more, who cares what other more subtle improvements there are?!?

    MICROSOFT did that, not the users...

    Yeah if it weren't for Metro destroying the interface (Customisable my you-know-what, that guy doesn't even begin to understand what a customised desktop is to have said that) we'd all be jumping for joy!
    You just proved her point.

    Jim
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    Jim

    One could ask, why did Microsoft ruin such a great OS upgrade with the metro crap then. Metro is SO BAD (for a certain section of people, you know, those people that USE their computers) that almost nothing else matters. If you can't use your machine any more, who cares what other more subtle improvements there are?!?

    MICROSOFT did that, not the users...

    Yeah if it weren't for Metro destroying the interface (Customisable my you-know-what, that guy doesn't even begin to understand what a customised desktop is to have said that) we'd all be jumping for joy!
    I don't understand the problem. 1 click and the Whatever (Metro) screen is gone. You can do everything on the desktop to USE your computer just like you have for years. Fast booting, task manager, and some other features are nice additions. No strong reason to upgrade from windows 7 but no harm in doing it either.
    Last edited by CalBear; 09 Aug 2012 at 14:06. Reason: Keep trying until you get it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post

    Well said.

    Jim
    One could ask, why did Microsoft ruin such a great OS upgrade with the metro crap then. Metro is SO BAD (for a certain section of people, you know, those people that USE their computers) that almost nothing else matters. If you can't use your machine any more, who cares what other more subtle improvements there are?!?

    MICROSOFT did that, not the users...

    Yeah if it weren't for Metro destroying the interface (Customisable my you-know-what, that guy doesn't even begin to understand what a customised desktop is to have said that) we'd all be jumping for joy!
    You just proved her point.

    Jim
    All I proved was that Windows is suffering the Tragedy of the Commons. As well as YOU and her.

    Yeah were all saying the same thing. Only difference is, apparenly most people don't /care/ that their productivity is being demolished because they never had any to start with!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    I would love it if those squawking the loudest about Metro could also offer their thoughts on other features of Windows 8 client and Windows Server 2012: such as QoS management, ReFS and Storage Spaces, Windows To Go…..or are they too stuck on a start screen?
    Well said.

    Jim
    Agree on that, Jim...............Well, Guys and Gals?

    Ok, as a person who really has no intention to switch over my machine to Windows 8, I will comment on the other areas. I'm not a fan of the new UI, and I don't really like going back and forth between the desktop and the new UI. My reason for not moving is that Windows 8 doesn't make much of anything really better for me, and the lack of aero makes it a big ugly, not having a start menu makes it just annoying to use, and the Metro apps are just a complete loss for me.

    There are other things that I like about it, but they aren't so awesome that I want to deal with the interface stuff
    1). iso mounting (nice to not need 3rd party)
    2). faster startup (I have an SSD with hibernation off to save space, it doesn't amount to much)
    3). Included Hyper-V for VM's. (I'm a vmware guy, and use vmware extensively at work)
    4). Ribbon interface on Windows explorer (yeah, it's there, but I have been fine without it for years)
    5). File history option (nice enough, but cannot configure folders, I use a file server and I use Chrome and not IE and favs are synced via Chrome)
    6). Drive pooling feature (nice, but again I use file server and don't keep anything important on desktop)
    7). Windows to go feature (only in enterprise, which I won't have at home since consumers cannot purchase it)
    8). Syncing of data and apps across multiple Windows 8 boxes is nice (but I wont' have multiples at home, most likely would use a local account or domain account (at work), and you need to use @live account to use this feature).
    9). App History feature of Task Manager. (nice addition, can see which apps historically have hogged system.)
    10). Better multimonitor support ( I only use 1 monitor at home, and while I use dual monitors at work, don't thin corporate will be putting us on 8...since we don't have a current enterprise agreement and aren't licensed for it)

    So, there you have it. I've contemplated most of the other features, and it's just a lack of whiz-bang changes and the forced inclusion of some things I don't want which make this a non-appealing spend of $40.
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