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Metro Whining and Other Windows 8 Madness

  1. #51


    There should be an option to hide Metro, if enough people complain they might implement it.

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  2. #52


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Plenty of people have been asking for that for a long time.

    Falling on deaf ears.
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  3. #53


    This dialog would save W8 from disaster and even make it the best OS ever. (This image/dialog is from Stardock's Start8. )
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  4. #54


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    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post
    This dialog would save W8 from disaster and even make it the best OS ever. (This image/dialog is from Stardock's Start8. )
    They could also provide the option to use Aero Glass on the desktop. They just ripped that out between the CP and RTM - it couldn't have been that big a change. Win8, then, could have all the performance improvements that it seems to have but it could still present itself the same way as Win7 does for those who would prefer it that way. (Like me). Microsoft did not HAVE to force the GUI change on desktop users.

    As it is, I'm likely to keep Win8 corralled in a VM for quite awhile. I want to play with it but I don't want to commit a machine to it.
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  5. #55


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck View Post
    Win8, then, could have all the performance improvements that it seems to have but it could still present itself the same way as Win7 does for those who would prefer it that way. (Like me). Microsoft did not HAVE to force the GUI change on desktop users.

    As it is, I'm likely to keep Win8 corralled in a VM for quite awhile. I want to play with it but I don't want to commit a machine to it.
    My sentiments exactly.
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  6. #56


    Posts : 299
    win 7 home premium 64 bit


    [QUOTE=Fredledingue;111731]

    STEVE ......ARE YOU LISTENING ??????

    THIS DIALOGUE BOX SHOULD BE A WINDOWS
    ITEM, NOT A THIRD PARTY PROGRAM.
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  7. #57


    Look I was as against the Start Screen as everyone else was/still is, at first. Then I actually decided to take the time to work with it. Now I like it waay better than the Start Menu of old, and I don't even have a touch device.

    I found that I could take-away anything I didn't want by un-pinning them. I could add all of the things I use frequently (and have more space to do so than in Win7 where I split the most used as Pinned Taskbar items, and lesser-used as Start Menu pinned items). I can separate different things into different columns as well, so that it all makes sense. This makes my taskbar and desktop area less cluttered. I suspect for many people it will simply become the new way of having loads of folders/shortcuts on your desktop, leaving you with your desktop background un-hidden behind loads of programs, and all your programs organized in separate columns with the click of one corner hotspot.
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  8. #58


    Ok, I still fail to see what's the advantage over a well arranged desktop, where you can sort all the things by columns too. The classic Start Menu doesn't pop up when you boot the OS. It doesn't fill the entire screen while you don't need it and didn't ask it. And it doesn't hide the taskbar. Why the Start Screen hides the Tasbar is beyond me.
    Quote Originally Posted by listing
    found that I could take-away anything I didn't want by un-pinning them
    You can also arrange the Start Menu by sub menus which makes a lot of sens. But very few poeple does so. on the W8 Start Screen you are compelled to do it else it's a real mess from the beginning.
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  9. #59


    Why exactly do you want Start Screen to show the taskbar? Theoretically anything you really want would be pinned to the taskbar, so you wouldn't be going into the Start Screen to select it and vice-verse you shouldn't need to see the task bar for the 2 seconds it takes you to find the thing you need on the Start Screen which you haven't deemed important enough to pin to taskbar.

    Advantages over a well organized desktop? You can see the background picture on your desktop, giving you a clean interface. But if you do need to launch the Start Screen to get to an application that's not already pinned on your taskbar, you have much more room for more pinned items on the Start Screen than you do in the Win7 Start Menu, where you have to juggle the verticle start menu space between pinned start menu items and recently used programs. I can't imagine many people still used Start Menu's legacy system of dumping program folders/shortcuts into the Programs subdirectory over the combination of Windows Explorer's navigation pane, taskbar/start menu pinned items, and the Win7 start menu search box.
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  10. #60


    Quote Originally Posted by listing
    you shouldn't need to see the task bar for the 2 seconds it takes you to find the thing you need on the Start Screen
    First the Start Screen appears when the computer boots and the session is ready to use and in absence of any command it stays there. That means we hae an interface by default which is without taskbar. As long as you run only metro apps, you hae no taskbar.
    Quote Originally Posted by listing
    Why exactly do you want Start Screen to show the taskbar?
    For the same reasons I like to have the taskbar visible all the time. I like to see which apps are running and which documents are open, even (especialy should I say) when I'm looking to open another program or document. I also would like the charms to be always visible so that I know where I must click and don't hae to call my visual memory for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by listing
    you have much more room for more pinned items on the Start Screen than you do in the Win7 Start Menu, where you have to juggle the verticle start menu space between pinned start menu items and recently used programs.
    With all the subfolders and sub sub folders you can create in the classic Start Menu, it's close to infinity. With the Start Acreen, beyond 3 or 4 screen full of tiles it's unusable or extremly slow.
    Quote Originally Posted by listing
    I can't imagine many people still used Start Menu's legacy system of dumping program folders/shortcuts into the Programs subdirectory over the combination of Windows Explorer's navigation pane, taskbar/start menu pinned items, and the Win7 start menu search box.
    Very few poeple actualy does this but if more poeple did it they would enjoy a tremendous app launcher interface, and find their stuffs very quickely. I did so for myself and I had a very clean very easy to use Start Menu, all sorted into categories (folders) and subcategories (subfolders). It took about hour to sort all the Programs'items into the Start Menu but well worth it, (if you have a use for more than 20 apps occasionaly of course).
    Quote Originally Posted by listing
    Advantages over a well organized desktop?
    Desktops and Start Menu's are usualy real mess because poeple don't clear them. Garbage keep on piling up without anybody to care. Poeple do clear their home, but they were never educated to clear their computer and that's why it looks difficult for them to find what their need. With the Start Screen it won't be any different.
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