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Metro Whining and Other Windows 8 Madness

  1. #41


    New features of Windows 8;

    > faster start up times - doesn't help me as I run off an SSD, with hibernation disabled to save space
    > closes apps automatically - are you talking about feature that suspends apps "if" you run low on system resources?
    > can mount .iso files - yep, but we've all been doing it for years with small 3rd party apps.
    > built-in anti-virus - that's nice, 1 less thing to install at os install time.
    > lock screen - I've always had the ability to lock the screen from XP onwards.
    > arm support - ok if you need low power computing.
    > future refs file system - i'm not going to hold my breath for this one. Remember, WinFS????
    > cloud computing - possible on just about anything.
    > apps store - not interested yet at all.
    > multiple monitor support - it's better than previous versions of Windows..but multiple monitors has been possible forever now.
    > copy,rename,delete improvements - unsure I know about these, haven't seen much difference.
    > window scaling - are you talking about TCP IP window scaling.
    > easy restore - very very basic. Won't replace our imaging tools, only works if you can boot into OS.
    > windows to go - not really excited about this, don't really see the value for me personally.
    > usb 3.0 support - another nice built-in without driver install. But not an exclusive to Windows 8.


    I'm just not terribly excited. Most features are marginal for me.

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  2. #42


    Quote Originally Posted by CalBear View Post
    Jim

    One could ask, why did Microsoft ruin such a great OS upgrade with the metro crap then. Metro is SO BAD (for a certain section of people, you know, those people that USE their computers) that almost nothing else matters. If you can't use your machine any more, who cares what other more subtle improvements there are?!?

    MICROSOFT did that, not the users...

    Yeah if it weren't for Metro destroying the interface (Customisable my you-know-what, that guy doesn't even begin to understand what a customised desktop is to have said that) we'd all be jumping for joy!
    I don't understand the problem. 1 click and the Whatever (Metro) screen is gone. You can do everything on the desktop to USE your computer just like you have for years. Fast booting, task manager, and some other features are nice additions. No strong reason to upgrade from windows 7 but no harm in doing it either.
    Totally agree. I think it IS worth upgrading. Windows 8 is noticeably quicker. The filing system is great. Nice and speedy.

    Everyone is 'fixated' on the Metro UI. So what??? One click - Desktop. Or install Classic Menu and Start is back and boots to the desktop directly.

    Stay with Win 7 if you want. Leave us who enjoy and use Windows 8 to enjoy it!!!!
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  3. #43


    Quote Originally Posted by geddeeee View Post
    Everyone is 'fixated' on the Metro UI. So what??? One click - Desktop. Or install Classic Menu and Start is back and boots to the desktop directly.

    Stay with Win 7 if you want. Leave us who enjoy and use Windows 8 to enjoy it!!!!
    No guarantee that Classic Menu will work with RTM. From what I saw of it earlier, it was close, but not a total match for the classic start menu.

    It isn't just about the new UI, though that's a big point for most folks.

    Either way people go, it makes no difference to me. I don't have anything personal in the game. I'm one of the folks planning to stay with Win7 but I'll run Win8 as a VM and play with it that way. Some folks want to drop a fresh copy of Win8 on their machine and I'm happy for them if that's their decision.

    To say "leave us to enjoy it" is to say "just be quiet and go away, I don't want to hear your opinion" - I hope that's not what you really meant.
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  4. #44


    Quote Originally Posted by TerryE View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by geddeeee View Post
    Everyone is 'fixated' on the Metro UI. So what??? One click - Desktop. Or install Classic Menu and Start is back and boots to the desktop directly.

    Stay with Win 7 if you want. Leave us who enjoy and use Windows 8 to enjoy it!!!!
    No guarantee that Classic Menu will work with RTM. From what I saw of it earlier, it was close, but not a total match for the classic start menu.

    It isn't just about the new UI, though that's a big point for most folks.

    Either way people go, it makes no difference to me. I don't have anything personal in the game. I'm one of the folks planning to stay with Win7 but I'll run Win8 as a VM and play with it that way. Some folks want to drop a fresh copy of Win8 on their machine and I'm happy for them if that's their decision.

    To say "leave us to enjoy it" is to say "just be quiet and go away, I don't want to hear your opinion" - I hope that's not what you really meant.
    No I didn't mean, I don't want to hear your opinion. LOL!!!

    Well Classic Menu DOES work in RTM. It's not an exact copy, but all the familiar elements are there. In fact all my programs work in Win 8. I have yet to come across a problem. I had a lot more problems when moving to Win 7.

    I'm mainly annoyed with people who haven't yet tried Win 8 RTM, and are already saying, "It's crap. Metro UI... Blah blah!!!"

    This OS is rock solid. I think MS need to be applauded for trying to improve performance. (Not talking about that old chestnut, Boot time!!! Ugh!!!). I'm not an MS fanboy either.
    The filing system especially is lightning fast. Everything works.

    The same situation occurred when Win 7 was released. The 'IT Experts' slamming it etc.

    Win 8 was going to have Metro UI anyway. Nothing wrong with MS trying to integrate the OS and Windows Phone. Apple did it, so why not MS.

    I'm sure that opinions will change once people actually use it and see that it is QUICK!!!
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  5. #45


    I'm sure it's fine for folks who have come to like it. I hav to say that once I got used to the interface and the new ways of doing things my opinion improved, but for other several reasons I'm not going with it as my primary OS.

    I also would not expect to see it in the typical Enterprise environment for a long time to come, if ever at all. Time will tell, of course, but any major change to the standard desktop environment in an enterprise can take a very long time. We're just getting people to Windows 7 from XP, and I remember the work and time it took for the whole company to move to XP from Win2000.

    So, enjoy it, have fun with it!
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  6. #46


    Quote Originally Posted by TerryE View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by geddeeee View Post
    Everyone is 'fixated' on the Metro UI. So what??? One click - Desktop. Or install Classic Menu and Start is back and boots to the desktop directly.

    Stay with Win 7 if you want. Leave us who enjoy and use Windows 8 to enjoy it!!!!
    No guarantee that Classic Menu will work with RTM. From what I saw of it earlier, it was close, but not a total match for the classic start menu.

    It isn't just about the new UI, though that's a big point for most folks.

    Either way people go, it makes no difference to me. I don't have anything personal in the game. I'm one of the folks planning to stay with Win7 but I'll run Win8 as a VM and play with it that way. Some folks want to drop a fresh copy of Win8 on their machine and I'm happy for them if that's their decision.

    To say "leave us to enjoy it" is to say "just be quiet and go away, I don't want to hear your opinion" - I hope that's not what you really meant.
    Classic Shell works fine on the RTM - I'm running it right now, no problems.
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  7. #47


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    For me there are two sticking points with Win8; and it's not just a case of preferences, but Microsoft attitude.

    1. Why haven't the improved performance aspects of Win8 been offered as SP2 to Win7?

    2. Why won't M$ provide a built-in option in Win8 so Metro is hidden, and a direct boot to desktop and legacy start menu?

    In short, if you want the improved performance & direct boot to desktop/legacy start menu; but don't want Metro ... you're forced to use a work around like Classic Shell.

    If M$ are so bloody minded that they won't provide those options to accomodate the preferences of their army of loyal desktop users, then no matter how good the improvements in OS, I'm simply not interested in dealing with that company.
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  8. #48


    Quote Originally Posted by geddeeee View Post
    The same situation occurred when Win 7 was released. The 'IT Experts' slamming it etc.
    I don't recall that at all with Windows 7. Every IT person that I work with was very, very impressed with the OS and how well it worked. We jumped onto Windows 7 from XP and Vista almost immediately at work. Same thing for me at home.
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  9. #49


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    1. Why haven't the improved performance aspects of Win8 been offered as SP2 to Win7?
    Couple of things
    #1). Windows 8 is not out yet, so maybe these changes are coming
    #2). MS would rather you spend $40 and upgrade.
    #3). If you could have the performance improvements of 8, without having Metro..some people wouldn't ever move to Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    2. Why won't M$ provide a built-in option in Win8 so Metro is hidden, and a direct boot to desktop and legacy start menu?
    They want an easily recognizable and united front across phones, game consoles, tablets and the OS.
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  10. #50


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    For me there are two sticking points with Win8; and it's not just a case of preferences, but Microsoft attitude.

    1. Why haven't the improved performance aspects of Win8 been offered as SP2 to Win7?

    2. Why won't M$ provide a built-in option in Win8 so Metro is hidden, and a direct boot to desktop and legacy start menu?

    In short, if you want the improved performance & direct boot to desktop/legacy start menu; but don't want Metro ... you're forced to use a work around like Classic Shell.

    If M$ are so bloody minded that they won't provide those options to accomodate the preferences of their army of loyal desktop users, then no matter how good the improvements in OS, I'm simply not interested in dealing with that company.

    Eggactly!

    Poking your finger in the eyes of your best and most loyal customers over the years is no way to do business, in fact this kind of arrogance is what decimates businesses.

    All I can say is if Steve doesn't allow the engineers to add the choice to have a direct boot to desktop OPTION to bypass METRO completely, and the traditional start menu as well, I hope MS crashes and burns in a spectacular fashion, because they will totally deserve that fate.
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