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Metro Whining and Other Windows 8 Madness

  1. #21


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I have to say , her colleague is spot on:

    If Microsoft continues down this path, the strategy will backfire, and PC owners with a choice will likely skip this version of Windows, much as they did with ME and Vista.
    Agreed, that is my plan. Stick with Windows 7. No real benefit for me of 8.
    No real benefit? Virtually every part of Win7 has been improved in Win8. Do some research.

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  2. #22


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Point out comments where people have complained about actual improvements:

    • RAM usage
    • Speed
    • QoS management
    • ReFS
    • Storage Spaces
    • Windows To Go
    • etc.
    RAM usage. I guess it's a bit lower in Windows 8, but with 4GB or more or RAM in Windows 7, it's not like I was really running out. And running on 5% less RAM with Windows 8 is not likely going to make it or break it.

    Speed. Not seeing much difference, like I said before, I run with an 80GB SSD for my OS, I turn off hibernate to save disk space. The Hybrid boot is lost on me. No tangible gains.

    Storage Space. In theory I like the concept. but I'm leary that if my OS were to crash, would I be able to take my 2-3-4 drive collection, plug it into another machine and be able to mount it, and get access to my data. This is something I actually plan to test soon with a VM.

    Windows To Go: Enterprise only, not useful for the consumer.
    Try doing some real CPU intensive work and you'll see the difference.
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  3. #23


    Quote Originally Posted by Soundtweaker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I have to say , her colleague is spot on:
    Agreed, that is my plan. Stick with Windows 7. No real benefit for me of 8.
    No real benefit? Virtually every part of Win7 has been improved in Win8. Do some research.
    I have done research and i've used the releases extensively. For what I do with a computer, I don't see many benefits worthy of spending $40 on it. It's got some nice features, none of which I cannot continue to live without. And I'm more or less annoyed and uninterested in the entire Metro interface and apps on my PC and the lack of a start button is just flat out annoying.

    So, please share with me all of these improvements of Windows 8 that for me would be advantageous please?
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  4. #24


    Well if all you do is check email and watch you tube vids. Just get a tablet.
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  5. #25


    Quote Originally Posted by Soundtweaker View Post
    Well if all you do is check email and watch you tube vids. Just get a tablet.
    Who said that is what I do with my computer? I do have a tablet, and if those were the tasks I frequently did, there is a chance that I would actually use my tablet a bunch more than I do.

    Any other advantages that I might be missing that you can offer? The items you mention above would actually be more ideal inside of the Windows 8 apps/Metro apps.
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  6. #26


    Quote Originally Posted by Soundtweaker View Post
    Try doing some real CPU intensive work and you'll see the difference.
    I run virtual machines, I render video files, I mix audio from time to time, and I play video games. I've not found conclusive evidence that the new features in Windows 8 really improve much upon these areas.

    Some of these benchmarks here support my findings
    Windows 8 Preview Beats Windows 7 in Most Performance Tests | PCWorld

    As you can see in content creation, Windows 7 was just a bit faster. And office productivity is a bit lacking too.
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  7. #27


    Australia
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    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by Soundtweaker View Post

    • RAM usage
    • Speed
    • QoS management
    • ReFS
    • Storage Spaces
    • Windows To Go
    • etc.


    Try doing some real CPU intensive work and you'll see the difference.
    So why aren't MS giving us all these improvements in SP2 for Win7, instead of making us endure Metro Maonster to get them?

    With hi-performacne 8 thread CPU and mobo, linked SLI GTX graphics cards, SATA3 SSD HD and 12GB RAM, I can simultaneously run 7, 8 or more video clips on different windows from Youtube; watch live TV on TV card, and type in a Word document, while transferring photos to my home theatre Set Top Box ... and Taskmanager/Performance shows only 5 or 6 threads running and hardly raising a ripple!
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  8. #28


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    the only things I really need Windows at all for (any flavour) is running OFFICE and PHOTOSHOP. I've never found any of the alternatives to Office any good -- they might be 90% compatable but they aren't 100% and always lack a missing feature or two --especially EXCEL.

    I'll probably go back to using LINUX again on the desktop with a Virtual machine for photoshop and office.

    Metro is an abomination for office / video / MySQL type of stuff. Fine for tablets and mobile phones - which is probably where metro will finally end up.

    W8 definitely boots quicker - but who cares about that anyway and I like the Windows to Go feature - but is easy enough to create a bootable Linux system on a USB and have a Windows VM on it if you really need a "Portable" Windows system.

    The Windows 8 HYPER-V looks quite interesting - but I'd probably use a server if I wanted to use Virtual Machines in that way.

    Having tried W8 I'm not going to install it at all on a permanent basis -Windows 2012 Server is OK though - you don't have to start metro at all if you don't enable "Desktop experience" and can even be installed without a GUI.

    The whole idea of having Metro in any shape or form on a Server is so ludicrously Bonkers you have to wonder what sort of managers are employed that can even THINK of this type of stuff -(Acc****re again !!! --they are usually good at hosing stuff up -- and would easily qualify for an Olympic Gold for the largest screw up in I.T history) .

    If you are running W7 and happy with it there is utterly no need to upgrade to W8. The main problem will be those who buy computers with this stuff already installed on it. I'm sure there will be a whole slew of individuals wanting a "Downgrade" to W7.

    Ms have really shot themselves in the foot this time.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. #29


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    SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Jimbo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ixnay on the Etromay. You wanna get sued and lose your job and your house, or your cats if you have any, or your goldfish if you have any, or your horses if you have any, or....... worse?!?!?!?!?!
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  10. #30


    I haven't used the Start Menu itself for years. If Vista had the little search box, then I haven't used it since Vista. I only use that awesome searchbox. I WISH the Start Screen in 8 wouldn't separate my results into files/aps/settings the way it does because it's my biggest pet peeve with Windows 8, but I suppose I that over time will learn to tolerate it. Especially since something strange has been happening lately, in that the more I use Classic Shell for the old Start Menu (which can't add files to the search results, unfortunately), the more I don't like the Start Menu and being confronted with all those folders. After I recently took the time to customize my Start Screen with different columns for different things, I like it a lot better. My columns go like this:

    1. Most frequently used programs (media player, firefox, notepad, utorrent etc.)

    2. Lesser used programs so that I don't have to go searching for them (adobe photoshop, emule, snipping tool etc.)

    3. Computer Security/Performance stuff (ccleaner, defraggler, malwarebytes, microsoft secuirty essentials suite, revo uninstaller pro, spybot:S&D, spywareblaster)

    4. I haven't yet set-up the 4th column, but it will be: Control Panel Settings/Destination Shortcuts (CP areas that I actually visit, like Network Sharing Center, Power Options, User Accounts; and links to areas of the C: Drive such as Program Files, Windows, System32, Themes).

    Meanwhile, whilst I'm not going into Metro to access this Start Screen (which I suspect I will come to love more and more), I am enjoying the improvements to the Desktop area, such as the new copy popup dialogue and management.
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