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Microsoft Looking to Tighten Up Windows 8 Activation Requirements

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    Microsoft Looking to Tighten Up Windows 8 Activation Requirements


    Microsoft’s activation service has always been somewhat controversial since its debut in Windows XP, but has turned out to be a necessary evil. The process started out being very forgiving, and to be fair, we have yet to hear of a single legitimate customer being turned away. Even when Microsoft was within its rights to deny activation as a result of terms in the EULA, a simple phone call was often all it took to resolve the dispute. Pirates have been taking advantage of Microsoft’s generous nature for years now, and new reports are suggesting they are looking to close down a few of the loop holes with Windows 8.
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    Hafnarfjörđur IS
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    Hi there

    This just Wont' fly -- at least in Europe

    What right does any O/S have of updating your BIOS.
    I could boot on Monday say with W8 and on Tuesday with a version of Linux.

    The O/S concerned has rights to ensure it's not being pirated etc -- but updating a computers BIOS --- no way jose

    cheers
    jimbo
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    jimbo45, you're misinterpreting the information. MS doesn't update the BIOS, the necessary information is added by the OEM before the computer ships.

    Ever since Vista came out, OEMs could register with MS to allow automatic activation without the user having to be online. The end user would just start the computer and be able to use it without restrictions like in good old Win 9x days. Pirates abused this by emulating dumped OEM-bioses to get Vista and 7 to boot up fully activated. All you need is a proper patcher that installs such a BIOS-emu and you're good to go. Since every BIOS uses the same serial, this is a relatively surefire way to pirate the OS and save yourself from updates that detect other forms of activation circumvention.

    What MS wants, is to change the serial in every OEM-BIOS which is already present to be a unique one. All OEMs that registered with MS for this procedure have shipped their BIOSes with proper serials for years. This does not affect the end user, whether you plan to boot Windows, Linux or Mac OS... The serial is only queried when Vista/7/8 boots up, other operating systems ignore it.

    People who assemble their own PCs aren't affected either, since they don't qualify for the automatic OEM activation procedure and thus have to rely on the other known activation methods.
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    Hafnarfjörđur IS
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    Hi there
    I have no problem with Ms doing whatever it likes to protect its "Intellectual copyrights" -- but the thought of it actually being able to update the BIOS in my computer is just horrific.

    I don't regard Ms as "The Evil empire" and I know I can't do anything about corporations gathering all sorts of statistics -- but writing to MY OWN computer's BIOS is where I would draw the line.

    Ms might want to change serial nr's or whatever - fine but do that by interrogating the INSTALLED software base.

    No way on this planet do I need or want companies to be able to WRITE TO MY BIOS- I wouldn't even want them to be able to READ it either unless it was done via an OK API system.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    I have no problem with Ms doing whatever it likes to protect its "Intellectual copyrights" -- but the thought of it actually being able to update the BIOS in my computer is just horrific.

    I don't regard Ms as "The Evil empire" and I know I can't do anything about corporations gathering all sorts of statistics -- but writing to MY OWN computer's BIOS is where I would draw the line.

    Ms might want to change serial nr's or whatever - fine but do that by interrogating the INSTALLED software base.

    No way on this planet do I need or want companies to be able to WRITE TO MY BIOS- I wouldn't even want them to be able to READ it either unless it was done via an OK API system.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Again, you are reading it wrong. If you build your own computer and buy Windows 8, it has it's own serial key that you enter during install. Then, you activate it like you always did and Microsoft will not change/read/write your BIOS. They won't.

    What they want to do is, pre-built computer wise, to require OEM that key that you get with the DVD within the BIOS. Then, if Windows 8 detects that in the BIOS, it will simply detect it's a legit OEM key and won't need further activation if a need to re-install is needed (I think).

    Don't be paranoid.
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    Yes Jimbo, please read the whole article and ask questions if needed before just flying off the handle half cocked.
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    Yeah, Windows 7 uses OA2.2 and activates offline against a SLIC table in the BIOS for OEM-SLP installs. Windows 8 will use OA3.0 (OEM Activation 3.0) for OEM-SLP installs and will activate online. The BIOS will still have a SLIC table but it will now be unique to each PC. You can't cheat by copying a SLIC table from one PC and adding it to the BIOS on another PC.
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    Sounds more stringent, and sounds like it should had been done A LOOOOONG time ago. Microsoft actually has been real generous with pirated copies and pirates. They even allowed pirated copies to still receive updates with 7 until and update flagged down all the pirated copies. I've heard that it's still easy to pirate 7, but doesn't sound at all easy with 8. Good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Sounds more stringent, and sounds like it should had been done A LOOOOONG time ago. Microsoft actually has been real generous with pirated copies and pirates. They even allowed pirated copies to still receive updates with 7 until and update flagged down all the pirated copies. I've heard that it's still easy to pirate 7, but doesn't sound at all easy with 8. Good work.
    The somewhat easy piratability of Windows is one reason for its popularity. Try before you buy. The "generosity" of MS wrt piraccy has simply been marketing.
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    More than marketing.

    It is the reason Windows is the most widely used.

    Interesting strategic decision.

    Time will tell if it is the right one.
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