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If OEMs aren't committed to Windows 8, where are they to go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
    From what I'm seeing I believe that Msoft expects the OEM's to simply go out of business while expecting everybody to purchase the surface tablet and for everyone else to just toss the old PC's into the trash.

    Apparently with this new Op system it's Msoft's way or the highway.

    I'm anxiously awaiting the firing of Steve Ballmer. This should be the straw, don't you think?

    Hahaha....the PC is just going to go away. The arrogance of these people is stunning!

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    Some of them deserve to go out of business. Selling crappy hardware and bloatware for years eventually catches up to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundtweaker View Post
    Some of them deserve to go out of business. Selling crappy hardware and bloatware for years eventually catches up to them.
    Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree that some OEMs have had some serious issues with bloatware and terrible quality hardware, but I think this has actually improved over the last 5 years or so. I think several are considering offering a clean Windows installation from their factories at a slight additional cost to the consumer, which is otherwise usually covered by the bloatware companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    where you sat there for minutes on end just to open a few programs at the same time
    That never happened to me running 64 bit Vista on a machine with 2gb ram. No oem bloatware , tho.

    It always worked great - fabulous o/s - for me at least.

    I could never really understand other peoples dislike of it.

    Sounds like it is the same with you and Win8.

    The difference is - I was willing to accept that others did not find it worked it for them - for a whole variety of reasons.
    It's so strange to find people that had a blast with vista, it's almost like an oxymoron. I've worked on some PCs that had vista on them, and WOW. Even AFTER uninstalling the bloatware, disabling some services, defragging, disabling startup items, and the latest Windows updates, there was STILL performance lags even on system with 4 gigs of RAM and 64 bit Windows. Strange conundrum, but 7 fixed those issues right up. And Windows 8 makes better use of the system resources than 7.
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    I still have the system I beta-tested Vista on (a P4 2.8Ghz), although it's been upgraded since then.

    One of the OSes it currently runs is an unpatched, non-SP copy of Vista Ultimate.

    The Vista setup doesn't get worked often, or hard, and is NOT connected to the net.

    And I've never had a problem with it (touch wood!).

    EDIT: - It also lurks in a VM on this machine.
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    I recently upgraded my reserve machine on which I'm running Vista Ultimate 32bit OEM, with a SSD SATA3 hard drive and 8GB RAM. And truthfully I can hardly tell the diference between it and Win7 Ultimate 64bit running on same SSD on my main machine. Mind you the Vista disc was purchased from a retail computer shop, and installed by a friend who is a licenced system builder, so it was totally free of bloatware. And since then I have reinstalled a few times after doing an unconditional format of HD.

    There are a lot of little simple things missing in Vista though, like if a USB stick is plugged in, when you safe remove, it IDs the drive letter, but not the name of the stick. Whereas Win7 will say Toshiba or Elements, etc. Not a major running issue, but just annoying inconveniences.

    I have installed a virtual copy of XP on my Win7 machine using Brink's tutorial in W7Forum. How hard is it to do with Win8?
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    Mustang said:
    I have installed a virtual copy of XP on my Win7 machine using Brink's tutorial in W7Forum. How hard is it to do with Win8?
    No different actually. Just follow Brink's tutorial like with the XP to 7.
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    so windows 8 RTM available in techent or somewhere else if not when ll it be available!!!
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Mustang said:
    I have installed a virtual copy of XP on my Win7 machine using Brink's tutorial in W7Forum. How hard is it to do with Win8?
    No different actually. Just follow Brink's tutorial like with the XP to 7.
    Thanks Mike. In that tutorial he gave a link to download XP Virtual file + a KB download. Are similar Win8 Virtual + KB available?

    Is there a similar tutorial in this forum for Win8 Virtual? I looked but couldn't see it in the tutorials.
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    Mustang, it would be in the tutorial section here. Brink's keeps it pretty well organized and in order.
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