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Windows 8 RTM build 8518 screenshots appear - no more Aero!

  1. #11


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there.

    "Wotizit" ??.

    Seems the screenshots are fine -- most people use decent themes anyway --who needs Aero.

    Now if they could get rid of the Metro "Kiddies" menu for those that don't want it--then fine.

    I know using "Classic Shell" you can virtually banish Metro forever --but we really shouldn't have to do this.

    Nothing against developers of Classic Shell -- good piece of work really appreciated.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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  2. #12


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by TerryE View Post
    I'm a big fan of Aero and still holding out hope that Microsoft will reconsider it for Windows 8 on PCs. Even my little 1 GB 32-bit Netbook can do Aero with Windows 7 - so it can it be that big a deal?
    And XP was very successful even without Aero...

    This may sound bad for some (sorry) but for me, what you call Aero is useless: some transparent borders just for the show. I hope they don't reconsider it, but if they do no big deal.

    Just some info: Aero is what the theme is called (at least up to RP version) even without transparency Aero still remains there (there is also AeroLite that's it's included in the themes folder).

    And cheer up. Maybe there will be updates or hacks / fixes to re-enable it again.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 7/8


    Strange calling Windows 7 aero "flat" when talking about the metroized win8 desktop. That is the very dictionary definition of flat. Flat, boring, stark, and in some cases rather eye gouging, i.e. that bright red close button on any sort of blue border color scheme.

    Aero wasn't just about the transparency, it was the nice subtle shading of the window elements, the rounded corners that didn't look like they were going to poke your eye out. It was very relaxing to look at for hours and hours every day and it faded into the background allowing you to focus on your actual work. The new color scheme is brash, harsh on the eyes and in most cases way too bright (thankfully you can still tone it down it looks like) and even competes with the very content you are creating (or consuming).

    Add to that that the entire thing looks like some kind of 3rd grade design with a 6 color crayon box... it's hard to swallow really. I can see how it might be "Wow" when you first look at it, but looking at that every day? Color me extremely disappointed.
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  4. #14


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    Strange calling Windows 7 aero "flat" when talking about the metroized win8 desktop. That is the very dictionary definition of flat. Flat, boring, stark, and in some cases rather eye gouging, i.e. that bright red close button on any sort of blue border color scheme.

    Aero wasn't just about the transparency, it was the nice subtle shading of the window elements, the rounded corners that didn't look like they were going to poke your eye out. It was very relaxing to look at for hours and hours every day and it faded into the background allowing you to focus on your actual work. The new color scheme is brash, harsh on the eyes and in most cases way too bright (thankfully you can still tone it down it looks like) and even competes with the very content you are creating (or consuming).

    Add to that that the entire thing looks like some kind of 3rd grade design with a 6 color crayon box... it's hard to swallow really. I can see how it might be "Wow" when you first look at it, but looking at that every day? Color me extremely disappointed.
    Yes. A good explanation. I didn't named it like that: it's what the msstyles theme is still called.

    It would be better to give the (new) theme from Win8 a new name. But for now (as seen in RP) it's still called Aero regardless of the look (it's a name thing that was kept during version change?). Maybe it will change in the RTM, instead of Aero to... let me guess... Metro, Flatness or Surface to match Metro interface.
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  5. #15


    UK
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    Windows 7 Ultimate


    For heaven's sake! Windows 8 just keeps going from bad to worse. This is just pathetic. What are Microsoft thinking? What a total car crash this is going to be. No way I am going to use this BS on my PC. Windows Vista would be a better option.
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  6. #16


    I said this once, and I said it again: there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Vista. It has bugs, glitches and mistakes just like any other OS, but the general public gave their best to overblow them out of proportions.
    Windows Vista works 3x better than Windows 7 on my rig, and that's saying A LOT!!!

    I could take the time and quote many posts made in the thread, but I'm too tired and lazy after working all day, so I'm just gonna pile up some answers to those posts:

    Yes, it does sound weird to call Aero in Win7 "flat" when Metro is all about simplicity and flatness, but that's the mistake of Win7, not Metro. In Vista, Aero looked amazing and gave me a nerdgasm every time I saw it. In Win7, I was just disgusted - even though it was supposed to be all about shading and graphics and window elements and stuff, it still looked horrible to me compared to Vista. Just a weak, pale (literally) comparison to the awesomeness of Vista's appearance.

    Getting rid of Aero in Win8 was the best thing Microsoft could have done because, whether one likes it or not, their main forces and concentration were going towards pushing Metro, not the DesktopUI.

    And I also agree that Metro has a far way to go to be generally accepted as a positive change, especially because it looks primitive and restricted of options - I don't deny that, it was one of the reasons I had a prejudice towards using Win8 in the first place. However, one should not try and force it to work the way one wants - they might as well not try at all and stick to Vista or 7... But accepting the changes, getting used to them, and making the best out of what Metro has to offer is the way it's supposed to be done in Windows 8 - once I realized that I made my best effort yet to get Metro into shape from what I could get and make the best of it, while STILL having the option to just log in, click on the Desktop tile and never see Metro again until I power on my PC again. That also says a lot.

    Even though a lot, A LOT of things became MUCH more complicated to manage with Metro and the RibbonUI in the Windows Explorer - in the end, this is still Windows, not some wacky Linux distro that takes ages getting used to and knowing how it works, and that's the whole point - if one likes Windows, one knows how to get around its problems and restrictions, and use its advantages to the fullest instead.

    Oh, and one last note: I am totally NOT a fanboy of Windows 8... At least not yet xD
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  7. #17


    I said this once, and I said it again: there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Vista. It has bugs, glitches and mistakes just like any other OS, but the general public gave their best to overblow them out of proportions.
    Windows Vista works 3x better than Windows 7 on my rig, and that's saying A LOT!!!
    Vista better than Win7... Never ! 7 is what Vista sould have been.
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  8. #18


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Buy an SSD instead


    Quote Originally Posted by tcman50 View Post
    I look at it as entertainment, come on $40, for the general consumer that's a no brainer. Hell, one can spend $40 on one dinner, what's $40 for something that you are going use almost every day of your life for the next 2 or 3 years.
    I think that SSDs are overpriced, but I'd rather save that $40 and put it towards getting a larger SSD (or more RAM), than W8.
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  9. #19


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Morpheus View Post
    When I first saw screenshots of the new user interface, I didn't like it at all. But, few days ago I downloaded a Microsoft Office customer preview, and... wow! It looks great! If Windows Explorer is going to look like that, or similar, I will never turn my computer off.
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  10. #20


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by vrosa View Post
    I said this once, and I said it again: there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Vista. It has bugs, glitches and mistakes just like any other OS, but the general public gave their best to overblow them out of proportions.
    Windows Vista works 3x better than Windows 7 on my rig, and that's saying A LOT!!!
    Vista better than Win7... Never ! 7 is what Vista sould have been.
    Windows Longhorn SHOULD had been both vista and 7.....
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