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Windows 8 in the Enterprise: Why IT pros say no

  1. #21


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    I know what Microsoft called it, BUT for myself XP stands for eXpressly Prohibited. True I still use it as a test bed, but really no choice in the matter, it is still widely adopted thru-out the USA.

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  2. #22


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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Scareware/Marketing Scam


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    EDIT: Doing beta testing now with Bull Guard software. This is totally really funny. I have one Win XP test machine. (We both know Microsoft brought it to the end of it's life, and did everything THEY will with it.) Ran the software's tune up function (Clean install before I loaded the Bull Guard onto it.) and it FOUND 339 problems with WinXP, and was only able to correct less than half of them. (136 fixed) Remembering now, this unit has EVERYTHING Microsoft made available for it, and STILL Bull Guard found that many problems with it. I actually fell off my chair laughing.
    These so called problems are imaginary (like the menu open time is set to 200ms, when they say it should be less).

    It's a standard Windows cleaner "up sell" tactic.
    IoBit ASC says this all of the time.

    Strangley enough, my Windows installs "don't miss a beat".
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  3. #23


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    OK, I can go for that. BUT explain the faster boot, and response time this PC gets now.
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  4. #24


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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    I have my suspicions


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    OK, I can go for that. BUT explain the faster boot, and response time this PC gets now.
    I should have said "A lot of these so called problems are imaginary ...".

    A lot of people say that cleaning/defragging the Registry has no effect.

    I suspect that it may be possible to boost performance, by removing calls to non-existent hardware/software (for example).
    The computer doesn't have to wait for the time-outs before it continues.

    If you look at their suggestions, you will often see that they reduce a lot of the wait times for actions. (e.g. menu open delays).
    Some of the original delay settings are quite large.

    I guess those wait times were because hardware wasn't as good in the "old days".
    I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they do the same thing to driver/OS component load settings.
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  5. #25


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    OK, just finished doing the same on a Medion (brand name- generic) desktop Windows XP, and this time it was in the thousands (4327 problems reported by Bull Guard) Weird tho, it corrected them ALL. That to me is surprising. The PC in question is used mainly by teenagers, and a lot of those problems were Trojans, and viruses. (Gotta LOVE this one: peekapoo.tro) I have no clue as to what it does while the mice (teens) are away, but some of the names they give them are super funny.
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  6. #26


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    I know what Microsoft called it, BUT for myself XP stands for eXpressly Prohibited. True I still use it as a test bed, but really no choice in the matter, it is still widely adopted thru-out the USA.
    Hi there
    we used to call Windows XP -- Windows eXPensive - especially when they first started that activation stuff.

    Windows NT was known as Windows NeanderThal or Windows NoThanks. Still probably the WORST EVER version of windows to try and use in a non server situation -- total disaster zone.

    We used to call IBM as well back in mainframe days - It's Being Mended.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. #27


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    Jimbo LoL I love it.
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  8. #28


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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    OK, just finished doing the same on a Medion (brand name- generic) desktop Windows XP, and this time it was in the thousands (4327 problems reported by Bull Guard) Weird tho, it corrected them ALL. That to me is surprising. The PC in question is used mainly by teenagers, and a lot of those problems were Trojans, and viruses. (Gotta LOVE this one: peekapoo.tro) I have no clue as to what it does while the mice (teens) are away, but some of the names they give them are super funny.
    A computer's performance improving after malware is removed, doesn't surprise me.
    It will probably reduce the boot time too.
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  9. #29


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    You're right, it did speed up boot time too.
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  10. #30


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    Win7 x64 Ultimate, Mac OS X 10.6.8


    To share our internal testing (small)...

    We just completed testing W8 CP and we specifically looked at efficiency, work done versus time spent. After 3 solid months of testing with 27 client computers, this is what we found using desktop computers. The machines used hardware based on mid 2011 spec'd items.

    > Factoring in having to get used to Windows 8, average weekly productivity was approximately 33% worse than with Windows 7.

    > Without factoring in the learning curve and strictly looking at the highest levels of Win8 productivity during the testing period, it was found to be 18-20% less productive than when clients were using Win7.

    The key complaints we found during our survey are the confusing locations to alter settings. Instead of having just one location in the Control Panel, they now had to look at more than one place . The lack of a Start/Win button was huge, nearly everyone was greatly affected the first day due to that change alone and severely impaired the user's ability to easily navigate around, trying to find out where to shutdown or restart the computer. We had people getting stuck prior to the login screen (lock screen), something we never ran into before with any previous versions of Windows.

    Metro was a hit and miss, many found it cool looking but found it less than useful on a desktop computer.

    Nearly all didn't like the overly plain look of many of the apps, they found the large, thin fonts very unappealing.

    Our internal survey showed 26 of 27 users found nothing beneficial about Win8 where it was clearly better than using Win7.
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