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How Microsoft can salvage Windows 8 before it's too late

  1. #81


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    Quote Originally Posted by EchoX860 View Post
    As of this moment in time there's nothing that makes me want to switch. I despise Metro, don't care for the new Ribbon Explorer interface, I'm perfectly comfortable using 7.
    That's the direction I'm tending more toward.

    Win8 can be configured to work the way I want it to, but not sure I can be bothered for the small gain over Win7.

    Can't definitively say until final release available. However, @$40 for upgrade though, will probably get it, if for no other reason than to keep my Windows disks anthology complete.
    Last edited by Mustang; 27 Jul 2012 at 09:30.

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  2. #82


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    Mustang said:
    However, @$40 for upgrade though, will probably get it, if for no other reason than to keep my Windows disks anthology complete.
    Copycat
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  3. #83


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    I'm sure M$ and others they hire to do independents have executed a ton of surveys. M$ is a successful multi $billion business. I think they might know a little about what they're doing and which specific market to target and with what software to shoot that market with.
    That is why they never release a product which is unpopular.

    You might not have noticed MS share price is half what it was a few years back.


    @ some on this forum, especially some Pros

    Most people aren't as stupid and slow as you may think, especially the younger. We live in a pretty-much literate world today. We're no longer in the dark ages. They will read the help files, seek personal help, or whatever it takes to learn something, what I believe, is drastically new, an OS named Windows 8. I suggest to come off your high horses and walk some ground down here. At least for a while.
    It is not about learning a new UI.

    It is about what win8 is for. The purpose is to lead people online to MS clouds.

    The eventual aim is the o/s will boot up online, the average punter will get at it using any little simple device which has a few little squares to stab at.

    The consequences of that are what concern the "pros".
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  4. #84


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Mustang said:
    However, @$40 for upgrade though, will probably get it, if for no other reason than to keep my Windows disks anthology complete.
    Copycat
    Oooopps! Sorry Mike, didn't see that you had already posted this sentiment!

    But even if I had, is not imitation the greatest form of flattery!
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  5. #85


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    SIW2 said:
    That is why they never release a product which is unpopular.
    Then explain Windows ME.

    It is not about learning a new UI.

    It is about what win8 is for. The purpose is to lead people online to MS clouds.
    The eventual aim is the o/s will boot up online, the average punter will get at it using any little simple device which has a few little squares to stab at.
    You're UNDER a misconception. Cloud computing started LONG before now. All cloud computing is, is the ability to save, and upload files to a centralized network (The CLOUD). Actually if you think about it, the Cloud is NOT attractive! Did you ever think WHO will also have access to the Cloud besides you? eh? Big Brother WILL be WATCHING the CLOUDS!

    Also let me add, and you can ask Brink about this as well FCC mandates ALL internet messages be scanned, and reported DIRECTLY to them. BUT don't take it out on any forums/message board etc. This law was enacted WAY back in the days of a Online company called CompuServe. Seems some geniuses thought this would be the perfect media to use as a criminal frontend, so kidnappers used CompuServe's message board as a way to send ransom notes. Lovely eh? Way back in those days there was no way to track via IP Address. So in 1997 the FCC became a part of this media, and requested (forced) companies to
    upload their weekly logs.
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  6. #86


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Stratos, I don't believe the current iteration of Windows 8 would work in a business environment. I would LOVE to see what the professional version of Windows 8 will look like. I believe this version is for computer enthusiast, and not the corporate user(s). The cost involved in JUST the re-training of employees would be astronomical. BUT! Seeing as how Microsoft is also a business (Corporation) I am MORE than sure they will have an edition for businesses. Various different online sources have always stated that the biggest buyer of Microsoft Windows is the enthusiast. (Home-User)
    Agreed, strictly from a cost-benefit analysis, Win8 at the moment doesn't look very good at all.
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  7. #87


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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundtweaker View Post
    It wont be as hard as you think. Most people already know how to navigate around a smartphone UI so Win8 isnt much different.

    I was referring to the hacks that allow a user to remove the lock screen or increase the screen resolution. These are both accessed through regedit and user account control. Technically, these things are not apparent or available in the default GUI. They must be hacked.

    What I hoped to say was that Windows should have these options available to non-hackers. Presently they are not.
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    warning   Warning
    Let's keep things friendly shall we, and stop with the snide comments.

    Posts removed.

    Last edited by Brink; 28 Jul 2012 at 10:11.
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  9. #89


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I'm sure M$ and others they hire to do independents have executed a ton of surveys. M$ is a successful multi $billion business. I think they might know a little about what they're doing and which specific market to target and with what software to shoot that market with.
    Historically thought, Microsoft hasn't been universally successful in their business ventures over time. They were so late to the web browser market that it was laughable. Microsoft Vista was universally despised by nearly everybody at launch and even after vendors got it together and SP1 made major improvements, it's image never truly recovered for many. Then we had Microsoft Bob....don't think this even needs to be discussed. Windows XP tablet edition.....went almost nowhere. Then, we had Ultimate TV...well a few people did and it went defunct. Then, we had the massively late arrival of the Microsoft Zune which accounts for something like 1.8% of the MP3 market to this day. Oops, don't let me forget Windows ME. There was the Microsoft Kin which lasted less than 1 full year in 2010. And there was some type of watch back in the early 2000's and for the life of me, I cannot remember what it was called. A google search would turn up the name...and that is what I would use, rather than BING...which again was terribly late to the market. So, in all fairness, these surveys and their knowledge and multi-billions of dollars don't guarantee a winner or something even well thought out.

    And no, I don't hate Microsoft. I use their products daily. I manage Windows servers, I love Windows 7, I've been on Office and Exchange forever, I've got more Microsoft certs that I do any other vendor.
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  10. #90


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EchoX860 View Post
    As of this moment in time there's nothing that makes me want to switch. I despise Metro, don't care for the new Ribbon Explorer interface, I'm perfectly comfortable using 7.
    That's the direction I'm tending more toward.

    Win8 can be configured to work the way I want it to, but not sure I can be bothered for the small gain over Win7.

    Can't definitively say until final release available. However, @$40 for upgrade though, will probably get it, if for no other reason than to keep my Windows disks anthology complete.
    I could not agree more. It is about getting used to a completely new way of thinking about things. The Windows Explorer is not even placed on the start menu. To me, the constant flipping back and forth between Metro and the desktop is dizzying. I feel; that I am getting a headache sometimes. I don't despise Metro, I do think it is annoying and I am not ready for change right now.
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