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How Microsoft can salvage Windows 8 before it's too late

  1. #51


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    Windows 8 pro Retail


    Terry? Tell your pal to save his money, and not to bother to try to upgrade his MSO. The next version of MSO, Microsoft Office 2013 won't do Vista.
    Last edited by Mike Lonewolf; 23 Jul 2012 at 10:48.

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  2. #52


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Hi Terry,

    I agree with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryE View Post
    I'm no fan of Metro - to me it's the biggest obstacle to Windows 8. I am getting used to it (as if I have much choice if I continue to use Windows 8) but I think I'll hold on to my Windows 7. I'm usually one who likes running the latest and greatest but this one's going to be the exception.

    If you like Metro and you think it's cool, that's fine. If you're like me and you don't, welcome to a pretty big club. Differences in opinion or perspective do not mean we can't behave like adults.

    FWIW, I might be in the minority but I liked Vista and I even told a friend that he should not be in any hurry to upgrade his Vista PC to Windows 7 as long as Vista works well for him.
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  3. #53


    Mike,

    I'm not sure he runs Microsoft Office - if he does, it's probably 2007 anyway. Heck, I just got on the MSO 2010 bandwagon a couple months ago. I'm still poking around at times trying to find things, but I do like some of the changes in Outlook. I'd like to see more color schemes than black, blue, or silver - maybe in the final version of 2013? (I have just started looking at that.)
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  4. #54


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Now that I tested Start8 from Stardock, I can say it works very well compared with Power8 and Classic Shell.

    Start8 keeps the Metro start screen (is nondestructive to the native ui) and adds some extra options.
    A usb stick can be safetly removed as the program doesn't interact with it.

    All 3 programs mentioned here do a very good job and are 64bit processes on a 64bit Win8 version.

    Since I adapted to the new start screen but still want to boot to the Desktop, I now use Start8 because it got the fastest reaction time, for now, compared with the other two programs (goes pretty fast to the Desktop and back and forth in the menu).

    That's all for this quick test.
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  5. #55


    Solo.
    Posts : 2,159
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit


    I do call traditional desktop in more-primitive way by putting explorer shortcut into startup folder in program menu. It does take me there but need almost 10 second after metro.

    Kevin
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  6. #56


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Ismail View Post
    I do call traditional desktop in more-primitive way by putting explorer shortcut into startup folder in program menu. It does take me there but need almost 10 second after metro.

    Kevin
    Well Kevin,

    Start8 gets you there in about 1 or 2 seconds (this is i5 laptop here).


    Hopachi
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  7. #57


    Solo.
    Posts : 2,159
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit


    Really? That is more than I need. I will give myself try. Will replace classic shell with it. Downloading it now (2.2mb)


    Kevin

    edit:
    I did install it. Goes to desktop pretty instantly. But for the start menu style I feel like using classic shell more as it seem concise just like classic menu with smaller icons.
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  8. #58


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    No problem. Now you know the speed difference.

    But more features (like classic shell) are also important. Use what suits you best.
    I also find classic shell pretty good and has many menu interfaces to choose from but for now getting faster to Desktop is what I need.
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  9. #59


    Solo.
    Posts : 2,159
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit


    Ha ha Right.
    At least options are available out there. We can just pick up which one we need/prefer, and can jump to another for new look. Thanks to people who creatively doing their work.

    Kevin
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  10. #60


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    One thing is certain, every possible opinion on every possible aspect of the Win8 debate has been expressed, in every possible way.

    Isn't it time to put away the duelling swords and simply wait till the RTM hits the market? And let the sales barometer do the talking?

    For those who don't like/want it, surely the best possible strategy is do as Crawfish suggests:

    Quote Originally Posted by crawfish
    So you're going to spend $40 on something you don't believe in and think is terrible and won't use in hopes of it all getting better in the future and saving maybe a similar tiny amount. The only way to vote your disapproval that counts is NOT TO BUY THE THING, yet you're planning to give Microsoft your money anyway, which will only validate their direction and encourage them, making it less likely for your gamble to pay off. I don't get it.
    I personally prefer the legacy Win7 Orb and Start Menu and a direct boot to desktop, and have it inbuilt without the need to use third party software. In terms of this thread, the most meaningful statement for me was from the ZDNet blog by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes referred to by Brink in the initial post:

    However, given that the Redmond giant has already gone on the record to say that the UI that we see in the Windows 8 Release Preview is not what will be in the final release, it's safe to say that things are in a certain state of flux.
    What's the point of everyone getting their feathers all ruffled up until we know what the final reality is?
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