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How Microsoft can salvage Windows 8 before it's too late

  1. #121


    Australia
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    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    That'll never happen. Linux is still regarded as an enthusiast's OS, consumers will either stay on Window 7 or flock to OSX and most enterprises won't touch Linux at the desktop level. Let's not forget that a majority of enterprises use Microsoft backend infrastructure that even OSX still struggles with, can't imagine the cost of implementing Linux desktops in that environment.

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  2. #122


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    I think you are both forgetting Mart & RobR that Linux's daddy UNIX was in the business world, including at the desktop level With X-Desktop. But when the new kid on the block entered the fray MSDOS/IBMDOS, those mainframes started to disappear replaced with smaller faster x86 machine, then after that the top layer of DOS arrived - Windows. Might as well forget about Linux EVER making an appearance. No business is going to take a water down version of UNIX, or UNIX again for that matter.
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  3. #123


    Posts : 239
    Win7 & 8 64bit / Linux Mint 14


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    I think you are both forgetting Mart & RobR that Linux's daddy UNIX was in the business world, including at the desktop level With X-Desktop. But when the new kid on the block entered the fray MSDOS/IBMDOS, those mainframes started to disappear replaced with smaller faster x86 machine, then after that the top layer of DOS arrived - Windows. Might as well forget about Linux EVER making an appearance. No business is going to take a water down version of UNIX, or UNIX again for that matter.
    Remember when Linux was introduced Mike - it was the great hope. Probably over-hyped and I certainly 'bought' into the idea of an open source OS. Depends upon what hardware you're using but it certainly is responsive. That's where it all stops unless you just want to do some basic stuff and of course even after all this time even the media are still writing about Linux being almost ready. Been hearing and reading about that one for goodness knows how long. So in my book it's a no go.

    Not sure if there are any OEM's that are still flirting with it like they were some time ago.
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  4. #124


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    I agree with you Mart, and as we SEE it was a quick tasty treat for computer manufactures that THOUGHT no more license fees to Microsoft. HOW they became disenchanted with Linux when they couldn't get CHEAP help to support it. Atleast with Windows they just had to tell their customers to either call (800)MICROSOFT, or go to http://www.Microsoft.com/support to take care of the O/S they pre-installed onto their computers before shipping them to the retailers.
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  5. #125


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Not sure if there are any OEM's that are still flirting with it like they were some time ago.
    Yes, they are.

    They really need to get on with it and develop a more user friendly distro.

    It sells great on phones.

    No reason why it shouldn't as a full scale o/s - if they pull their fingers and whip it into that kind of shape.

    There is more incentive to do that now than there has ever been before.
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  6. #126


    Posts : 636
    Windows 7/8


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Not sure if there are any OEM's that are still flirting with it like they were some time ago.
    Yes, they are.

    They really need to get on with it and develop a more user friendly distro.

    It sells great on phones.

    No reason why it shouldn't as a full scale o/s - if they pull their fingers and whip it into that kind of shape.

    There is more incentive to do that now than there has ever been before.
    Well that's exactly what Apple did with OSX (Though not with Linux but another small *nix package). They put a usable desktop on top of a unix core and they got commercial software companies on board so users could still be productive and companies could still make money and it worked out really well.

    Google as you mentioned has brought Linux with a usable UI to the masses on phones and tablets and they have a desktop OS going but.. unfortunately it's all centered on trapping you into the google cloud universe so Chrome OS will never take the place of windows as a generic stand alone OS.

    It would take some other very large company to do that again, and I think that Apple got away with it because of a built in audience and Google got away with the phones because it was a new universe with flocks of new users. I'm not sure the same CAN be done for the generic desktop universe :/ Mainly because I don't think there is any other company that cares to invest what it would take to try to unseat Windows while competing with Apple and Google all at the same time for a market that so many short sighters seem to think is "disappearing".. :/
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  7. #127


    Palm Coast FLorida
    Posts : 370
    Windows 8 Pro ($39.99 upgrade)


    Current OS usage as of May 2012:

    All Windows 72%
    All Apple 18%
    All Linux 6%
    All Other 4%

    So Windows has almost 2 1/2 times the users of all other OS's combined.
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  8. #128


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Not sure it is going to stay that way.

    It may be that Linux will become a big player in tablets as well as phones and Servers.
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  9. #129


    Posts : 534
    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by tcman50 View Post
    Current OS usage as of May 2012:

    All Windows 72%
    All Apple 18%
    All Linux 6%
    All Other 4%

    So Windows has almost 2 1/2 times the users of all other OS's combined.
    Apple has managed 18% share of OS usage in 13 years of existance with OSX, for a pretty popular OS that's not very good and explains why their efforts are mostly on iPods, iPads and iPhones. However, their iPads are not PC replacements but compliment their existing PCs (whether Mac or Windows) for certain activities. iPads are used in our global company and we get the same complaints from most of the users, they have to carry both a laptop now and an iPad. Windows 8 has a pretty good potential to do well in the enterprise space with the type of users that require tablets.
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  10. #130


    Interesting observation, R0bR. Thanks for sharing the insight.
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