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Windows 8: The end of the full retail version?

  1. #21


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    ^That's from a blog post 3 months old and isn't MSDN.
    And your point is?
    The poster thought this forum might have a problem if they linked to other forums. However, he said it was MSDN and Brink said that linking to MSDN was just fine. And that post wasn't from MSDN, so I wasn't sure if they would have a problem with it.

    As far as being more than 3 months old, that's relevant as the news of there not being a "retail version" is quite new. It wouldn't have come up 3 months ago.

    I'm totally fine if MS changes it's approach to allowing hobbyists to use that OEM license. I know I have purchased them in the past. My current Windows 7 Ultimate was free from Microsoft for attending the Windows 7 "New Efficiency" launch party. I don't really upgrade my PC, rather just build a new one every 2-3 years...so not being to transfer a license is a non-issue for me.

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  2. #22


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    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    For me personally, I don't see Win8 as a suitable desktop replacement for Win7.

    However, if Microsoft continue down the path indicated with Win8 it's quite scary. With Mac you can't build your own system, and Linux Ubuntu to my mind is not a real alternative. So that really leaves traditional desktop users hanging. I mean, there's really nowhere else to go.
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  3. #23


    I don't find Windows 8 to be unusable in any way. Just more of an annoyance for the majority of us Windows users who aren't interested in running tablet style full screen applications on our machines.
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  4. #24


    Hafnarfjörđur IS
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    Hi there
    if you install the "Classic Shell" Windows 8 runs fine (faster than Win 7 too) and if you don't mind a very slight pause at boot (and it's very slight--barely detectable -- especially if you are booting from an SSD) the classic shell boots straight into the Desktop. Booting into the desktop is in one of the settings in the Classic Shell.

    This FREE application brings back a "Proper OS desktop" back for Laptop / workstation users again.

    (Ms really should have kept this feature -- not everybody wants to (or even CAN) do everything on tablets / smartphones).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. #25


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    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Thanks for that info, Jimbo.

    I'm still using an earlier version on my CP.

    Will d/l the latest and have a look.....
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  6. #26


    Hi there
    if you install the "Classic Shell" Windows 8 runs fine (faster than Win 7 too) and if you don't mind a very slight pause at boot (and it's very slight--barely detectable -- especially if you are booting from an SSD) the classic shell boots straight into the Desktop. Booting into the desktop is in one of the settings in the Classic Shell.

    This FREE application brings back a "Proper OS desktop" back for Laptop / workstation users again.

    (Ms really should have kept this feature -- not everybody wants to (or even CAN) do everything on tablets / smartphones).
    Ok, so this 8 setup with classic shell - Does it satisfy your multi-window desire on the desktop? How about multi-monitors?

    Just curious.
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  7. #27


    Hafnarfjörđur IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    Multi monitors work just fine -- standard Windows 7 / 8 etc desktop feature -- nothing to do with Classic shell.
    (just curious --why on earth would you think that they WOULDN'T work -- we aren't considering Metro here but the "Bog standard Desktop" which works as Windows has always worked) ?

    cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #28


    It's just that z3r010 mentioned in a thread that multi monitors were a nightmare in 8 and you mentioned about multi pane in Metro.
    Sorry, my ignorance. Didn't know anything about Classic shell. Just read up on it. I see now it has nothing to do with monitors. I'll go away now.........
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  9. #29


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    @HippsieGypsie Multi Monitors are a nightmare in the Metro UI. Metro and Metro Apps will only run on one monitor. Metro is a full screen UI that can not be extended across dual monitors in the normal fashion. The only way to do it is with Eyefinity or something similar that will fool it into thinking your multi monitor setup is one big monitor. Even then its not ideal. Metro Snap will let you open two apps at once but its a 1/3 2/3 deal not the normal 50 50. Windows 8 still has the normal multi monitor support in desktop mode. If it didn't I would have been long gone back to Windows 7 by now.
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  10. #30


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    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    if you install the "Classic Shell" Windows 8 runs fine (faster than Win 7 too) and if you don't mind a very slight pause at boot (and it's very slight--barely detectable -- especially if you are booting from an SSD) the classic shell boots straight into the Desktop. Booting into the desktop is in one of the settings in the Classic Shell.

    This FREE application brings back a "Proper OS desktop" back for Laptop / workstation users again.

    (Ms really should have kept this feature -- not everybody wants to (or even CAN) do everything on tablets / smartphones).

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Thank you for that information. Does Shell have all the normal functions of the start menu in Windows 7, such as editing/deleting names of programs; search bar; User name liink that shows AppData, (when show hidden files is enabled), plus favorites, contacts, music, my documents, etc. And does it have a right hand side panel that links to Computer, Control Panel, etc?
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