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Windows 8: The end of the full retail version?

  1. #11


    ^That's from a blog post 3 months old and isn't MSDN.

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  2. #12


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    Moronic. Wtf are they thinking....
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  3. #13


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    ^That's from a blog post 3 months old and isn't MSDN.
    And your point is?

    LQQks like I'll be upgrading from 7 Ultimate to 8 Pro
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    I thought that I read that the "System Builder" license, lets you build systems for other people only.
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    Apparently that is being changed by MS. It seems they will be encouraging folk to use system builder on their own machines.
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    I'm not too sure about an upgrade now. I would rather dual boot as I am now. EULA will be a big factor there. But that's neither here or there about what we're talking about now.

    I found this article written July 9. The article has links to the dizzying M$ OEM EULA site. I needed a drink after I read that awhile!

    Is Microsoft changing its policy on System Builder licensing for Windows 8? | ZDNet

    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    I thought that I read that the "System Builder" license, lets you build systems for other people only.
    You may be correct as the article states:

    •The software must be installed on a “fully assembled computer system,” with a specific list of requirements (including a CPU, a motherboard, and a case).
    •The software must be installed using the OEM Preinstallation Kit (OPK). Although the discs that are included in the OEM System Builder package can be used to install the software directly, the license specifically prohibits this.
    •The computer system must be resold to an “unrelated third party.” If you're a consumer building for yourself, you don't meet the terms in Section 2, Authorized Distribution and Acceptance.
    So one could build a PC, install 8 using the OEM Preinstallation Kit (OPK), and sell it to someone, let's say an "unrelated" significant other (not wife or husband), a friend, a man/woman on the street, etc., for let's say a $buck$, and ask them to borrow it indefinetely. That would be legal.
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    Hi there
    at least in the EU (and EEA) this stuff is now "deprecated" as the top Court in Brussels (EU) has decreed that selling on to others software licenses is 100% legal.

    In the USA it might still be different but Ms has a HUGE market outside US as well.

    I think AUS / NZ & some Asian countries will adopt this model (although from my own experiences in Hong Kong etc the whole notion of "licenses" seems 100% academic anyway !!!.

    cheers
    jimbo
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    I think "Windows 8 System builder" version for end users would be the same as the retail boxed version. It would have a Windows 8 installation disk with it. Same thing. What else???
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    Quote Originally Posted by icet View Post
    I think "Windows 8 System builder" version for end users would be the same as the retail boxed version. It would have a Windows 8 installation disk with it. Same thing. What else???
    Right now windows 7 Retail boxes come with both 32 bit and 64 bit install media. You get phone support and you can transfer that license to another PC. If you buy an OEM copy you only get the one DVD, you have to pick 32 bit or 64 bit. No phone support and once you activate it, its tied to that PC and is non transferable. Big difference.
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  10. #20


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by icet View Post
    I think version for end users would be the same as the retail boxed version. It would have a Windows 8 installation disk with it. Same thing. What else???
    Right now windows 7 Retail boxes come with both 32 bit and 64 bit install media. You get phone support and you can transfer that license to another PC. If you buy an OEM copy you only get the one DVD, you have to pick 32 bit or 64 bit. No phone support and once you activate it, its tied to that PC and is non transferable. Big difference.



    May be Microsoft offer "Windows 8 System builder for end users" which does not get tied to the PC and is transferable. And about phone support who need that?
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